Bhassler wrote:You're the one posting clips, Windwalker-- I don't see how that relates to other people needing clips to validate their practice. Also, it's quite a jump to go from someone saying "this clip that calls itself fighting in the description (e.g. 'they fought and left') is not really fighting" to deciding that person mistrusts their own art or lacks some deeper understanding.
Unless someone is training for sport, there aren't a lot of clips of any classical style using their stuff for reals, which is as it should be, because most of us live in safe environments and that fighting stuff is illegal. There are some teachers who do a much better job of providing the appropriate context around what they're showing and/or how it relates to realistic application than others, however.
the reference was to an inference made.
GrahamB wrote:
At some point you will realise that the subway train clip is faked and your whole world will come crumbling down - lol.
As far as the clip you've mentioned, seems like your taking what some one said in the clips description, and assuming I posted it to mean the same...
Feel I've been pretty clear. Its a demo of a training method that people train and use....How or what it's used for is up to them
Many feel its a way of testing taiji, which I would not agree with....although it can be and is used as a training method...
In taiwan when someone asked about what we practiced ,
we did some light sparring....felt good,
got a chance to show my students how it worked outside of
the practice....allowed the other person who said he practiced sanda in China,
to feel something different.
as far as CMA not being shown or used in competitive events,,,spent a large part of life helping those I've met to understand
that CMA methods work, just depends on the person. Have worked with many who do, and did compete never was into it..
In the 70s we had to deal with this,,,doesn't seem like much has really changed....although there are some teacher like shifu David Chin, and some others who have modified their training to field a stable of competitors
http://www.chrisheintzmankungfu.com/201 ... n-my-sifu/from one of his students
Sifu Chin and one of his students met me at a table in the restaurant and he asked me one simple question, “so why did you come to me?” The answer was simple – I wanted to become a better fighter – so you can imagine my surprise when the first assignment was to do Yang Tai Chi Form
. We did it low and slow and it nearly killed me mentally and physically. Then Sifu Chin came over to me and said he wanted to show me a technique of the tai chi chuan. I said, ‘great’ with excited anticipation and then he told me to put a hand up. I did and he laid his arm against mine and told me to hold my stance real strong.
I did and he asked, “are you ready?” I gave the affirmative and right after that he hit me. The fact that the punch came from such close contact was not the interesting part.
The way that it felt was what hooked me. It felt as though I had been hit with a battering ram and Sifu Chin had barely moved and had a slight smile on his face the whole time.
How some people come into contact with what is talked about in this thread
https://rumsoakedfist.org/viewtopic.php ... 42&start=0