Bagua Leg SPJ

[SPJ]

Just want to say that this is a great thread.

[Dean]

Appreciation of differences, that is one of the ways I resolve these issues, which you find in just about every line of traditional Northern Chinese martial arts---probably I am a bit sensitive because of previous "discussions".



The reason I post these pieces is not to argue with anyone but simply to provide information about the system we know and practice. This is not a claim of unique authenticity---

Cool!

[count]

My forest palm map.

[Bob]

Count, I don't know if you are joking about that particular diagram but in general, that is the basic idea behind converting the luohan linear forms to quasi-linear [some circles].

Part, and not the ONLY part of the Yi Jing theory applied here, is there are appropriate points for stepping across the circle and particular times---e.g. the trigram associated with father may be connected, for stepping purposes, to first eldest son and not to daughter. I only know some of this by discussion and old notes and not by practice.

There is also a way to incorporate a sideways figure eight into the post training but I don't know the details---interestingly you fight that in Huang Zhi's video clip used in walking which we used the sideways eight walking for a two person exercise.

In the clip below posted by Dan Farber. In the second part of the clip, Liu takes the linear form directly into the the circle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYQOLWeS ... re=related



Also, one, and not the only explanation, for us calling it bagua quan is that most of open hand linear forms we use can also be played with a bagua weapon such as the deerhorn knives, judge's pen, and needles. When you play the form empty-handed, as though you have a weapon in it, the hand is held as though the weapon were gripped, lightly gripped.

Thanks for the decent discussion.

[count]

Count, I don't know if you are joking about that particular diagram but in general, that is the basic idea behind converting the luohan linear forms to quasi-linear [some circles].

Just doodling Bob, but it made sense while I was drawing.

[Lincoln]

Here is another version of the "leg form". I believe that this is He Jing Hans first student.

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Here is the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA9yjrQl_is

[somatai]

wow.....wow....that was very nice indeed

[velalavela]

Here is another version of the "leg form". I believe that this is He Jing Hans first student.

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Here is the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA9yjrQl_is

He Jing-han (何靜寒)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmvDjHdRqO0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5B4jpl1Plg