qiphlow wrote:i watched about the first minute and a half of the clip. i can't speak to the quality of the xingyi, but the exercises i saw looked like they could have some value. they may have been hitting the shoulder as a replacement for hitting the face (seems like a beginner's class, and getting hit in the face by a training partner who has no control tends to discourage alot of beginners).
qiphlow wrote: ...the exercises i saw looked like they could have some value.
C.J.Wang wrote:mixjourneyman wrote:This is "master" Bakari.
I think he learned from Nganga Tooloo something or other.
I won't say anything else about this man's xingyi
Given the way things have gone lately, it sounds like a good idea for you to take a 4th amendament on your opinions regarding this man's Xinyi.
DeusTrismegistus wrote:qiphlow wrote:i watched about the first minute and a half of the clip. i can't speak to the quality of the xingyi, but the exercises i saw looked like they could have some value. they may have been hitting the shoulder as a replacement for hitting the face (seems like a beginner's class, and getting hit in the face by a training partner who has no control tends to discourage alot of beginners).
My problem with that exercise isn't the hitting the shoulder. Fr one they are using two hands to control one hand of the partner, who still has his other hand completely free. Then they are striking and leaving the striking hand extended and waiting for the other person to control it. Just seems like it would ingrain bad habits to me.
mixjourneyman wrote:So now since I never made a personal attack against any of you, could you please stop insinuating things against me.
I merely critiqued someones xingyi performance with classical principles in mind. You guys got offended and decided to attack me, but its ridiculous since in the end you will never talk to me about the principles, you will just lower yourselves to attacking my character.
mixjourneyman wrote:This is "master" Bakari.
I think he learned from Nganga Tooloo something or other.
I won't say anything else about this man's xingyi
cdobe wrote:James,
you didn't list your Wu style teachermixjourneyman wrote:So now since I never made a personal attack against any of you, could you please stop insinuating things against me.
I merely critiqued someones xingyi performance with classical principles in mind. You guys got offended and decided to attack me, but its ridiculous since in the end you will never talk to me about the principles, you will just lower yourselves to attacking my character.
I did not read anything from you about what is wrong with this man's Xingyi. What you wrote was this:mixjourneyman wrote:This is "master" Bakari.
I think he learned from Nganga Tooloo something or other.
I won't say anything else about this man's xingyi
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mixjourneyman wrote:I'm just not some automoton who thinks that everything anybody who is famous does is good.
Just because you have a big name doesn't mean your good.
But if you cut the root, the tree will try to fall on you
...its ridiculous since in the end you will never talk to me about the principles...
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xingyi, various styles 5 years
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Hai Yang 3 years consistant training xingyi bagua taiji
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