Baji Pigua - Form applications - Master Zhou jingxuan

[Bob]

Nice, very nice!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=iLN7CB_Ec ... re=related



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YicvuCendCw&feature=user



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96B4MPIGGcI&NR=1



36 Methods Qigong - Master Zhou jingxuan - part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihLD6xPCGiw&feature=user



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[SPJ]

1. Pi shan zhang or pi bao.

2, shan shou, fanning hand.

3. white snake sticking out tongue (bai she tu xin), upward fist to hit chin or fan lan chui.

4. pan ti, pan kick.

[SPJ]

I meant thanks for posting.

cool.

[Jingang]

You forgot one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYDBnA3WOpc

[C.J.Wang]

I like this guy's Pigua, but some of the Baji applications videos on his youtube account seem to carry a flavor unusal to the style -- fast and snappy rather than heavy and explosive. Perhaps it has to do with his built.

[Bao]

Great first clip, thanks for posting.

[Jingang]

C.J.Wang, you mean unusual to Wutang's baji flavor. Than again Wutang carry a flavor unusual to any of the rest of the Baji styles, Huo diange's, Wu xiufeng's, Ma fengtu's...

[mengcunman]

I always like the clips from Tianjin.

Maybe I will drop in next April.

I will pass Tianjin on my way to Cangzhou

[SPJ]

I like this guy's Pigua, but some of the Baji applications videos on his youtube account seem to carry a flavor unusal to the style -- fast and snappy rather than heavy and explosive. Perhaps it has to do with his built.

2 points pointed out or raised.

1. pi gua required good flexibility around chest/back/shoulder, usually it is better for women to practice. Its steps are light and fast.

Ba Ji on the other hand required heavy stepping to work. When you practice, you may do it slowly. however, when actual fighting, you are fast, too. but the end stepping would be hard.

more specifically.

pi gua required the movement of the whole arm plus shoulder/chest/back.

Ba Ji kao especially dictates heavy stepping, hand/arm moves may be shorter or inch or not apparent.

2. I used to think that, pi gua for long range and ba ji for close in fighting. so they compliment each other on the range

actually, it is the stepping, pi gua is very light or small in steps, ba ji is heavy or big in steps.

b/c, ba ji also has long and intermediate range tactics and strategy to get close first.

yes, yes, they are generalizations.

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[SPJ]

on the side note;

thanks to both meng cun man and jing gang

for posting and sharing their practices on the net.

very informative.

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[SPJ]

1. Pi shan zhang or pi bao.

2, shan shou, fanning hand.

3. white snake sticking out tongue (bai she tu xin), upward fist to hit chin or fan lan chui.

4. pan ti, pan kick.

my brothers did not like ba ji. They practiced for a while, and not interested.

And they said, they would not work.

I said you have to take the postures apart. Think of conditions it would work and conditions it would not work. The conditions it would work, then you come up with tactics and strategy to create or set up the conditions.

The conditions that it would not work, provide you the clues and ways to neutralize the move/posture if the opponent uses them.

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for example

1. white snake sticking out tongue: if you stab your palm upward to the chin, and the opponent blocks your forearm. you turn around your palm and grab the opponent's forearm downward and use the other hand to stab upward to his chin again.

so if the opponent uses the move toward your chin, what to do?

you lean your head back and do a low kick to distance your self.

or you move to the side, and high intercept his stabbing forearm with your forearm, and use the other hand to push his shoulder or back to make him fall, similar to fanning hand in the vid.

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my brothers said wow.

so learning a style, it is not just about doing forms and learning one app of each posture.

but to truly understand the conditions for the posture to work and not to work.

we come up with tactics and strategy to use the postures.

then we truly understand the postures.

[SPJ]

for people that are interested;

fanning hand, meaning we use the hands like a fan, so either the palm side and the back hand side may be used to strike/slap.

there is a both arms coming together power or he jing when we pi and then bao.

there is a arms separating power or kai jin when we use fanning hand.

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[Jingang]

I think the combination between Baji and Pigua is a combination between a Whole body power and a wave/whip power. I think there was a Jacky chen movie where the opponent used a staff to fight him but when Jacky took a staff to fend agains, the opponent turned his staff into a 9 section whip (jiu jie bian). I think it's something like that, the ability to change between to two very different and very basic powers.

[Bao]

the ability to change between to two very different and very basic powers.

It is interesting that when the typical baji basically and foremost focus on a quite compact, connected whole body power, you also try to understand the very opposite kind of force generation. I think many styles and many different MA practitioners do practice different kinds of attacking jin, but few practitioners focus on "the ability to change" between different jins or different shenfa methods. "The ability to change" and the ability to easily swich between opposite types of shenfa methods are basically what separates good martial artists from mediocre ones.

[Mephisto]

Master Zhou's pigua is pretty slick. If I ever get out to Tianjin I will definitely be checking him out.