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taizu clip...

PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:19 pm
by ashe


somebody named huang, lian shun?

anyway, that's not the point. the point is, we can embed youku! :o :D

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:39 am
by SPJ
WOW

Just noticed that there is a youku embedding button on the menu.

Yes. Way Kool.

;D 8-)

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:58 am
by AllanF
Awsome backdrop to the clip! 8-)

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 11:22 am
by Royal Dragon
That was a really cool set!! Sal told me what it was once, but I can't remember at the moment. I think it is one road of a much longer form. I amy be wrong, but I seem to recall that it is related to these sets.

Notice how they seem to all end with the bow drawn posture? Then the next one starts with it?

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 12:16 pm
by ashe
i think the description said it was the second section?

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:15 pm
by Royal Dragon
I have to look closer and see if it matches the other one. I seem to remember it being the 4th section, but I can't read the Chinese.

I should PM Sal, he'd know all this off the top of his head.

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:48 pm
by salcanzonieri
That video is from a Shandong martial art system.

He is doing 2nd Road of this Tai Zu Quan set.
This set is mislabeled 4th Road on some video sites.

A student is showing the 4th Road on youtube.
It's different than this video shown here.

All of Huang, lian shun sets are from a Shandong system that one of my teachers does, there's about a dozen of his sets on youtube showing.

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:45 pm
by Royal Dragon
So this set is not related to the other two then?

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:48 pm
by Royal Dragon

All of Huang, lian shun sets are from a Shandong system that one of my teachers does, there's about a dozen of his sets on youtube showing.


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Do you have some links? I tried a search on the name and it came up empty.

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 8:17 pm
by salcanzonieri
Royal Dragon wrote:
All of Huang, lian shun sets are from a Shandong system that one of my teachers does, there's about a dozen of his sets on youtube showing.


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Do you have some links? I tried a search on the name and it came up empty.


Huang Lian Shun: http://www.youtube.com/user/huanglienshun

A student of the same style as Huang: http://www.youtube.com/user/jinnhuaite

This Long Fist system is Shandong derived. It is completely different than the Harbin (near Mongolia) Long Fist system that also does a series of Tai Zu Chang Quan sets. The Harbin TZ Quan is what Shi De Jian and Shi De Gian and their teacher Wu Gu Lun practiced first before they learned Shaolin internal system.

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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 12:15 pm
by josh
Dave C. wrote a bit about this gentleman and his lineage, which seems to be mostly from Chen Panling and Gao Fangxian:

http://formosaneijia.com/2008/03/25/che ... uazhang-2/
http://formosaneijia.com/2007/10/08/general-gaos-arts/

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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:39 pm
by Royal Dragon
Cool articals. Seems like the Tai tzu was part of an over all Shaolin curriculum.

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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 11:33 am
by salcanzonieri
Royal Dragon wrote:Cool articals. Seems like the Tai tzu was part of an over all Shaolin curriculum.


Don't know why it is called Shaolin, since that list of Gao's Shantong related sets barely has any Shaolin sets at all.
Luohan Quan, of course.

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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 12:57 pm
by Royal Dragon
On the non Shaolin sets, are these local villiage sets made up of Shaolin techniques? Or completely unrelated material?

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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 11:10 am
by salcanzonieri
Royal Dragon wrote:On the non Shaolin sets, are these local villiage sets made up of Shaolin techniques? Or completely unrelated material?


They are a survey of various Shantong styles:

Cha Quan
Sun Bin
N Mantis
Shaolin Long Fist
Nanjing school
Mei Hua
Ditang
Six Harmony
etc
etc
etc

Wow, I've just about learned all these sets from one person or another over the years.

That Lian Wu Chang is related to Tai Zu Quan, it is part of Ditang style, but a middle basin set, not low to the ground.
I've seen it translated was Connected Martial Palms OR Connected Five Palms (Wu being the character for 5 rather than Martial).
There are videos of the Lian Wu Chang set in youtube, where sometimes it is labels as Ditang Quan.