He Jin Bao Yin Bagua

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Re: He Jin Bao Yin Bagua

Postby C.J.Wang on Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:57 am

D_Glenn wrote:
C.J.Wang wrote:In our Gao style lineage, majority of applications for back body and reversing body palms are circular throws and takedowns where the executioner would rapidly shift position and take away the opponent's balance simultaneously -- rather than standing relatively still in one spot, turning, and hitting.



That's baguazhang: every throw can be a strike, every strike can be a throw. You should see the same stuff done on myself when we're training on grass.


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Well said, my friend. That's what I like about Bagua -- its wide range of options for practitioners to customize their own arts.

It's interesting to note that my Bagua teacher, with his extensive background in southern styles, gravitates toward striking and intricate hand/body methods rather than throwing. As an ex-Jujitsu and Aikido guy, I like throws and takedowns myself, so I used to always try those techniques on him and ask how he'd counter. (I was younger and dumber back then. ;D ) Whenever we are in grappling range or a clinch, he'd just explode with powerful shoulder, elbow, or hip attacks and send me flying. :o
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Re: He Jin Bao Yin Bagua

Postby kreese on Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:37 am

Clips are down due to a copyright claim by Yin Style Baguazhang International. Boo.
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Re: He Jin Bao Yin Bagua

Postby Dillon on Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:39 pm

You'd think having a few short clips up would HELP them sell their videos...
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Re: He Jin Bao Yin Bagua

Postby D_Glenn on Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:35 am

It's not about selling videos, never was. The videos are meant for people who actually study with Jinbao.

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Re: He Jin Bao Yin Bagua

Postby kreese on Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:00 am

Good gong fu needs all the press it can get. Besides us nerds, who the hell knows about Yin style bagua and Xie Pei Qi? I would have posted the clips on my blog if they showed something cool--in effect opening up another channel for their art to be seen--but I didn't get a chance to see them before someone got scared about losing some bucks. I understand you don't want to give away what you are selling, but in my experience selling exotic items, giving the customer a taste was always the best selling technique. Boo.

Edit: Just read D_Glenn's post. With precious little out there of their art, seeing these clips could make or break someone's decision to attend a seminar or invest in a training trip to China. In the words of Shawn Segler, "just sayin'."
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Re: He Jin Bao Yin Bagua

Postby shawnsegler on Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:14 am

Glad to see I'm seeping my vibe into the community.

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Re: He Jin Bao Yin Bagua

Postby D_Glenn on Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:07 pm

Kreese,

It could go both ways, a video clip is totally subjective, as you can read on this thread.

In 2000 roughly 75 of us made the trip to beijing for a 22 day seminar and there were no video-clips online or actually even a website. Just word of mouth and a mailing list. "Just sayin."

There's some other clips around just not like these. You want links?


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Re: He Jin Bao Yin Bagua

Postby kreese on Sun Sep 14, 2008 5:16 am

Sure, man. Would love to see them. Thanks.

I hope all 75 are still going strong today.
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Re: He Jin Bao Yin Bagua

Postby mixjourneyman on Sun Sep 14, 2008 7:08 am

From the two videos that are left up, its easy to tell that the man has some real skill.
I would certainly consider training with him if I happened to be in his neck of the woods. :)
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Re: He Jin Bao Yin Bagua

Postby D_Glenn on Sun Sep 14, 2008 7:27 am

Mix, you are aware that those last 2 clips are of a guy who's just a student of bagua?

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Here's a clip that some have probably seen, the beginning is Xie teaching his student 'Lao Er' some dragon 'long xing' changes then upperbasin dragon changes where both hands are high. At about 4:40 it's Jinbao showing some snake 'she xing' and then phoenix 'feng xing'.

http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid= ... ua%2Btaiji

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Re: He Jin Bao Yin Bagua

Postby mixjourneyman on Sun Sep 14, 2008 7:32 am

Well there ya go.
I like single movement drills and that guy looked pretty decent at what he was showing.
I was also being extremely complimentary and positive, maybe too much so. ;D
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Re: He Jin Bao Yin Bagua

Postby mixjourneyman on Sun Sep 14, 2008 7:38 am

I liked the part at the end of the clip you just posted with the arm bars.
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