mixjourneyman wrote:Yuen-Ming: that was a nice clip you posted.
Any leads on any good li style guys in Shanghai or Beijing (I'll be visiting both areas next spring and I would love to just meet a couple guys to see what they do firsthand).
mixjourneyman wrote:Thanks very much.
I'll let you know when I'm coming. Likely in Jun 09.
Do you live in Beijing by any chance?
I would love to meet you.
Most probably not the same style
"Serge Augier Performing General Li Tai chi"
http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums ... hp?t=36922
Jingang wrote:Li ruidong (lived in a town close to Tianjin) practiced the art of Jingang bashi (he later on taught the 8 basic hands to Li shuwen) which is very close to the Jingang bashi we practice. When My teacher met a guy from that town and the guy found out we do similar arts, and that his 8 basic hands where not so clear or were changed in time, he asked Master Zhou to swap martial arts knowledge. Master Zhou agreed to teach him our 8 basic hands and in return learned the Wu-long Tong-hua pao (you can see that jinlong guy doing almost the same form on youtube).
LRD studied, among other things, a Shaolin style (called Inner Corridor) that included a number of sets - one of which is the Jinggang Bashi.
Jingang wrote:True. Names are not so important, at least not important as the actual material. Our Jingang bashi was originaly also called Shaolin nei-yuan (inner courtyard) and later on Grandmaster Shi yushan changed it to Jingang bashi. If you have the "5 hammer star Taiji" book by Ma jinlong you can find in page 494 the "5. Jin gang ba shi" songs. "each form has 8 forms = 64 forms".
We have the same 64 form and 64 songs (word by word), only we call them the "64 hard hands". We also have "64 soft hands" and other stuff they don't have.
Jingang wrote:I actually never sat and compared the whole songs word by word. I did compare them in general and found them matching. I can tell you for sure that we come from different lines (at least outside of the shaolin). Shi yushan (the head of guo shu guan number 11 in Tianjin) learned it from a shaolin monk.
I've also seen the 8 basic hands and they are similar in general moves but still different.
Do you have any video's of your style?
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