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Re: Sam Masich Master Class 2016

PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:48 pm
by Yugen
oragami_itto wrote:What about the part where he says "sometimes I"m feeling a bit more martial" and he moves one way, then "other times I'm feeling more silky, and move in a silk reeling sort of way"?

What do you think of that in particular?


provide a time stamp please.

Re: Sam Masich Master Class 2016

PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 1:02 pm
by origami_itto
Yugen wrote:
oragami_itto wrote:What about the part where he says "sometimes I"m feeling a bit more martial" and he moves one way, then "other times I'm feeling more silky, and move in a silk reeling sort of way"?

What do you think of that in particular?


provide a time stamp please.


At 8:30 he says "diagonal flying" and then does what looks like "Carry tiger" then says "snakes creep down" and does a similar movement, then the part I'm talking about.

Re: Sam Masich Master Class 2016

PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 1:07 pm
by wayne hansen
The more important thing for me is not where he raises his shoulders but his consistent loss of balance after doing applications on cooperative students
Does anyone know if the students were his or people resident in China
The mantis and dodging is quite rudimentary

Re: Sam Masich Master Class 2016

PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 2:02 pm
by Yugen
oragami_itto wrote:
Yugen wrote:
oragami_itto wrote:What about the part where he says "sometimes I"m feeling a bit more martial" and he moves one way, then "other times I'm feeling more silky, and move in a silk reeling sort of way"?

What do you think of that in particular?


provide a time stamp please.


At 8:30 he says "diagonal flying" and then does what looks like "Carry tiger" then says "snakes creep down" and does a similar movement, then the part I'm talking about.


yep, found it... um ... so what? today he feels "martial" now he feels silky... tomorrow he could feel groovy... ok.

"martial" is a word I particularly don't like the liberal use of. Aspects of BJJ are not "martial" they are sport. Aspects of what he's showing is dance, not martial. But other than that I have no problem with how he says he feels.

Re: Sam Masich Master Class 2016

PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 3:06 pm
by origami_itto
Just curious as to the communities thoughts.
I wouldn't presume to possess superior skill in any way, but that line in particular is very grating to me, since silk reeling energy is the fountain of the martial application of Taijiquan, so to hear them spoken of separately and distinctly is very strange. Was hoping for some more knowledgeable insight

Re: Sam Masich Master Class 2016

PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:26 pm
by Bao
oragami_itto wrote:, since silk reeling energy is the fountain of the martial application of Taijiquan, so to hear them spoken of separately and distinctly is very strange. Was hoping for some more knowledgeable insight


IMHO It's hard to know what he's aiming at. Here, he's probably just speaking about having different focuses, practicing on various things at various things. I must admit that I like the more free and playful attitude. There's a certain creativity of practice that I feel is very important but few teachers encourage.

If he teach yang or Chen type of silk reeling, I don't know. But he says "like drawing silk", not reeling. In Yang style, drawing silk is a slightly different concept than Chen silk reeling. Regardless what, there are many schools that just teach it as a concept amongst others and don't teach it as a principle of foundation of movement, or only regard it as an element of form practice. :-\

Re: Sam Masich Master Class 2016

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 4:11 pm
by willie
oragami_itto wrote: Was hoping for some more knowledgeable insight


But haven't you already insulted the people who knew the correct answers. Why ask now? LOL!
Happy New Year...

Re: Sam Masich Master Class 2016

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 4:29 pm
by origami_itto
willie wrote:
oragami_itto wrote: Was hoping for some more knowledgeable insight


But haven't you already insulted the people who knew the correct answers. Why ask now? LOL!
Happy New Year...


Have I?

You would be the expert on insults, I suppose.

Is there anyone else here who feels I have insulted them?

Re: Sam Masich Master Class 2016

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:28 pm
by Bao
oragami_itto wrote:Is there anyone else here who feels I have insulted them?


Insulted who? I don't think you have insulted anyone. Not even Willie. Frankly, I am a bit disappointed... -box-

Re: Sam Masich Master Class 2016

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:51 pm
by origami_itto
Bao wrote:
oragami_itto wrote:Is there anyone else here who feels I have insulted them?


Insulted who? I don't think you have insulted anyone. Not even Willie. Frankly, I am a bit disappointed... -box-

Aww, thanks. Frankly I feel like I go out of my way to avoid insulting Willie. he just leaves it out there, beggin for it!

Re: Sam Masich Master Class 2016

PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 9:42 am
by willie
oragami_itto wrote:
Bao wrote:
oragami_itto wrote:Is there anyone else here who feels I have insulted them?


Insulted who? I don't think you have insulted anyone. Not even Willie. Frankly, I am a bit disappointed... -box-

Aww, thanks. Frankly I feel like I go out of my way to avoid insulting Willie. he just leaves it out there, beggin for it!


i feel sorry for you.

Re: Sam Masich Master Class 2016

PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 12:31 pm
by origami_itto
willie wrote:i feel sorry for you.


Thank you! It's about time somebody recognized the struggles I face daily and exhibited an appropriate amount of sympathy.

Re: Sam Masich Master Class 2016

PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:59 am
by GrahamB
I feel sorry for both of you, and this thread.

Re: Sam Masich Master Class 2016

PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:04 am
by origami_itto
You should blog about it, may help process those feelings