Take a simple thing like padwork; there's nothing in the world that I've experienced that improves your striking level like padwork for example. Is that "Sanda"?
No, and neither is it traditional. These CMA "fighters" you think are great have probably never done much padwork if at all; I think neither you or they have a clue how much better a fighting level could be if done regularly as well as sparring with boxing gloves etc. Obviously there are those who do appreciate things like that and are open to it..
With traditional stuff it's the integration side that needs to be taken care of carefully. Sport and traditional can integrate just fine, it's the people that want to resist that for whatever reason that will find any amount of nonsense to convince themselves what a terrible idea it is..
http://www.kungfumagazine.com/magazine/ ... rticle=661Do genuine masters really withhold their best techniques from their students? According to Grandmaster David Chin, they do. "The old traditional masters, they were so protective of themselves," comments Chin. "They made sure they could make a living. They didn't want the students to compete against them."
In ancient times, a kung fu master's art was his livelihood, so they were always vigilant against potential traitors. While few still earn all of their living from martial arts, the tradition of secrecy continues to create swirling controversies.
In many traditions, keeping secrets is inherent, not just from students but also from the government. With our own national security now wrestling with the touchy issue of personal privacy, it's worth examining how our martial forefathers hid the arts underground. These subversive masters were catalysts for evolution.
Just released by the Chinese Wushu Association in response to Madman Xu. Translation:
Chinese Wushu Association sends this note to all provincial, local/municipal associations, saying such fights are against Martial Virtue, against the law, and hence firmly opposes them. Then there is blur about how it want CMA to develop in a healthy manner, and will soon release guide lines to stop this "chaos", and normalize it. All localChinese Wushu Associations should take up measures to put an end to such events in the future.
windwalker wrote:
While I think I understand your post, I wonder about the type of CMA you've been exposed too.
Yea it's always about "us lot" being starved if authentic CMA and what we have been exposed to or not. pretty much always. It's 2017.
Show me the video of TCMA lineages training their stuff on padwork that's in any way comparable to what I'm talking about and then let's see them fight with it just like boxers, sanda MMA, MT etc do.
We are a Traditional Chinese Kung Fu School and MMA Gym. We have programs for kids and adults. Sifu Chris Heintzman has been training with Grandmaster David Chin for more than 20 years and continues to do so today. We do not concentrate on flowery forms – as the old saying goes, “brocade leg and plum flower fist”. The meaning is that it looks beautiful but is quite flimsy. We concentrate on combat effective techniques and the conditioning required for their development and implementation.
Students will train in several different systems along the path of study. Our school focuses on developing the complete martial artist. By that, we mean a student will not only learn destructive boxing technique but also methods of self healing. Students will learn effective kung fu that will be applicable in or out of the ring.
If so why go up against trained fighters and embarrass your whole fucking art. So let's stop excusing the deluded please and call a spade a spade. At least leave it to someone who has thrown a punch in anger before. If I see too many more of these video I'll have a damn coronary David.
wayne hansen wrote:The main problem in traditional arts today is the raw material
When I came off the streets in 1973 Kung fu was the deadliest thing around
Established street fighters went to these arts to increase their arsenal
Today they go to MMA
a lot of people train in the school a couple of times a week and do little other training
I was playing rugby union on Saturday rugby league on Sunday and training them 4 times a week
All I wanted when I started training tang shou Tao was to make it through the workout
It was hard
Give me the choice of guys going to MMA and I will give you guys who can win fights using only traditional arts
Thai Keik Malaysia got its reputation through knocking down sign boards of other schools
Chock Seng kam and Lou tong Bao took on all comers from both Chinese and Malay arts
Their students also fought in south East Asian boxing championships (Kung fu) and won
They adopted traditional arts to fit that format
Bags were always used and tai chi was practiced in a number of straight line repative forms
Like rollback press going down the hall
wayne hansen wrote:Their students also fought in south East Asian boxing championships (Kung fu) and won
They adopted traditional arts to fit that format
Bags were always used and tai chi was practiced in a number of straight line repative forms
Like rollback press going down the hall
marvin8 wrote:Here's a boxer that keeps his feet in place, softens his back hip transferring weight to back leg, moving his center offline avoiding the attack, then shifts his weight forward finishing opponent:
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phil b wrote:Amazing that this generates so much discussion, and not just on this board.
A guy who has fallen for the hype generated by a fake TV show tries his hand against a fighter with predictable results, including the post butchery interview claims that he could've killed the MMA guy and thus, taking the beating in public was for the greater good.
Makes me wonder why BJJ, Muay Thai, etc. are so popular.
windwalker wrote:
The real story will be how the MMA guy turns down the CMA fighters that will come and challenge him
for "money" both in HK and Taiwan.
This will happen....if not already.....just a matter of time.
The MMA guy had a good marketing plan, lets see how long stays in the market.
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