CCTV4 Chinese Kung Fu Master — Bajiquan Kung Fu

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CCTV4 Chinese Kung Fu Master — Bajiquan Kung Fu

Postby marvin8 on Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:02 am

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Bajiquan Kung Ku, is one kind of old and aggressive Chinese Kungfu and culture. It is very powerful and useful in practice. Watch the video and learn more. Thank you!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxOBHp2MfsA
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Re: CCTV4 Chinese Kung Fu Master — Bajiquan Kung Fu

Postby nicklinjm on Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:31 pm

Don't have a problem with the material presented, but do have a problem with Wu Lianzhi presenting himself (and his family) as the Gatekeeper for Bajiquan. Also if you ask around in China it is common knowledge that he changed the lineage charts twice to make it look like his family are direct descendants of the founder - they are not.
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Re: CCTV4 Chinese Kung Fu Master — Bajiquan Kung Fu

Postby marvin8 on Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:47 pm

nicklinjm wrote:Don't have a problem with the material presented, but do have a problem with Wu Lianzhi presenting himself (and his family) as the Gatekeeper for Bajiquan. Also if you ask around in China it is common knowledge that he changed the lineage charts twice to make it look like his family are direct descendants of the founder - they are not.

Yes. There is an old RSF thread on the lineage dispute and the so-called challenge, Wu Baji Dispute, http://www.rumsoakedfist.org/viewtopic. ... df6dfalled.

Excerpts:
wuwei wrote:Very interesting documentary. For those who don't understand Chinese, it's about the disputing claim of the birth place of Wu Zhong, the founder of Baji Quan. On one side is Shangdong Qingyun which has its local genealogy manual as supporting document. On the other side is the Wu Lianzhi's claim of Hebei Meng village as the birthplace of Baji and himself as a direct descendant.

The documentary people looked up the local genealogy manual in Meng village and many Baji quanpu written during the Republic era including those written by Wu's grandfather Wu Huiqing. Their shocking discoveries are that not only Wu Zhong was not a native of Meng village, Wu Huiqing substituted his own father as a direct disciple of Wu Zhong over another person, hence fabricated his claim as a direct descendant. Wu Huiqing and Wu Lianzhi over the years had also in several occasions willfully rearranged the lineage chart so that they appeared higher.

From a tradition CMA society viewpoint, these are some really serious accusations (欺師滅祖). But then from a modern viewpoint, this is just another case of traditional political nonsense.



At 5:03 of the OP video, Wu describes a challenge with a "taekwondo master." Here is actual footage from that program:
bailewen wrote:Are you guys talking about this thing?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNG_pWzd9JY

Andy_S wrote:RE: "TKD champion fight"
Actually, this was from a Korean TV series about MA: It features this young chap who travels around Korean learning from and sparring with various martial arts masters. I guess he learned of the Baji guy during a visit to Korea. (FYI, this segment was filmed in the park near World Cup Stadium where I occasionally train myself). Pretty good series, on the whole: There are chunks of it on YouTube, but AFAIK, the series has not been translated or subbed into English.

But:

"TKD champion?"
I don't think so, though he is pretty decent at sportive TKD - probably 2nd or 3rd dan.

"FIght?"
Not really - more a light spar/technical exchange, in this case. And it was for a TV show, after all, so they wanted to see technique. . . .
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