Nice Xinyi Liuhe applications vid - Man Wenjie, Shanghai

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Re: Nice Xinyi Liuhe applications vid - Man Wenjie, Shanghai

Postby Overlord on Sun Nov 25, 2018 6:40 pm

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Re: Nice Xinyi Liuhe applications vid - Man Wenjie, Shanghai

Postby dspyrido on Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:17 pm

wayne hansen wrote:That's him


But he only does forms.

I'll admit I fast forwarded the forms bit of the original video because I don't care much about forms anymore. I enjoyed the chinna bits. U no like?
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Re: Nice Xinyi Liuhe applications vid - Man Wenjie, Shanghai

Postby wayne hansen on Tue Nov 27, 2018 1:57 am

Most of those doing applications like the first guy don't ever do them with anyone attacking with any realism
Don't put power into the form let it naturally arise from the form
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Re: Nice Xinyi Liuhe applications vid - Man Wenjie, Shanghai

Postby Overlord on Tue Nov 27, 2018 6:33 am

dspyrido wrote:
wayne hansen wrote:That's him


But he only does forms.

I'll admit I fast forwarded the forms bit of the original video because I don't care much about forms anymore. I enjoyed the chinna bits. U no like?


Unless special kind of force/app intrigue me.
Most of Xinyi stance too low. It’s good for foundations.
But in applications, unless you are wrestling, why stand so low, and moves slow?
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Re: Nice Xinyi Liuhe applications vid - Man Wenjie, Shanghai

Postby dspyrido on Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:06 pm

Overlord wrote:Unless special kind of force/app intrigue me.
Most of Xinyi stance too low. It’s good for foundations.
But in applications, unless you are wrestling, why stand so low, and moves slow?


XY forms are not copying fight moves but building endurance, strength, coordination etc. They are more conditioning drills.

Standing low and moving fast makes the legs really strong and the legs are used to power all the strikes and defenses.

In a fight xy guys dont say they have to fight at that height but because they have trained at that height they can kick, step, jump with great speed. Btw xy also has animals/drills that are very upright designed for speed but they are trained later once the foundations are solid.
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Re: Nice Xinyi Liuhe applications vid - Man Wenjie, Shanghai

Postby dspyrido on Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:11 pm

wayne hansen wrote:Most of those doing applications like the first guy don't ever do them with anyone attacking with any realism


But it was not sparring. He was just teaching his students options.

"What do you do if I attacked with X? Do Y."

Pretty universal method of teaching for every martial artist on the planet.
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Re: Nice Xinyi Liuhe applications vid - Man Wenjie, Shanghai

Postby Trick on Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:38 pm

That’s how it is, it’s fake if it’s not UFC, MMA, BJJ these days. Just wait, in a couple of decades there will be to the death games, and everyone will be cheering...Hurray!!
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Re: Nice Xinyi Liuhe applications vid - Man Wenjie, Shanghai

Postby AJG on Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:00 am

I initially liked this guy

Then I saw how he does Yao San Ba. Nope
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Re: Nice Xinyi Liuhe applications vid - Man Wenjie, Shanghai

Postby AJG on Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:02 am

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