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So here's a thing

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:59 pm
by vagabond
[youtube]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5oNB6tlSZ2Aq/[youtube]

Re: So here's a thing

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:59 pm
by vagabond

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 9:16 am
by GrahamB
That's a weird psychological take on MMA....

Then it took a left turn into Japan.

The idea that Kano was the first in Japan to invent a martial art where he mixed techniques from other jiujitsu schools together and where he used leverage over brute strength is totally off-course with what really happened...

Nice production values though.

Re: So here's a thing

PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:11 am
by vagabond
Fair enough, but the japanese history has no bearing on the point made

I thought the production was the cheesiest part. But it did work

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:40 am
by vagabond
None of which devalues jiu jitsu. Buddha was a prince first after all

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 12:00 pm
by GrahamB
I don’t get the loneliness point....

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:17 pm
by dspyrido
I got through about 5 skips of listening for 1 second intervals. No idea the point of it but it it's cut so corny it was painful.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:07 am
by vagabond
dyspirido, try maybe more zhan zhuang in your routine?

graham, this is just speculation and i have no connection to the folks who made that vid but, i think, they're talking about this: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/27/maga ... lypse.html

Re: So here's a thing

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:48 am
by GrahamB
I'm enjoying this series more as it goes on. This is a great episode:

'Your home belongs to the bank, your gas tank is lining the pockets of those who had more to do with 911 than the country your brother just died fighting in and you're told the economy is in high gear even though your paycheck is buying less and less but what you just saw in the cage was unambiguous. One person hit another and the other fell. Nothing about it lied to you.'



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxC39OVZ9fM

Re: So here's a thing

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:50 am
by origami_itto
I particularly liked the part in (I think) episode 5 where he breaks down how UFC churns through undercard fighters.

Re: So here's a thing

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:46 pm
by vagabond
Yea I thought it did a decent job of connecting the dots on the grimier social undercurrents tied to mma and pretty much everything else. I could have wished for a more optimistic ending honestly but it's hard to know how that would go

Re: So here's a thing

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:07 am
by wayne hansen
I thought his take on Inoque/Ali fight was a little off target

Re: So here's a thing

PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:29 am
by vagabond
i feel like this dovetails nicely with that series

graham, if you thought the youtubes was weirdly psychological you're gonna spray milk out your nose for this one

https://www.3ammagazine.com/3am/an-intr ... VRWz0CtJBU

Re: So here's a thing

PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:13 pm
by dspyrido
vagabond wrote:dyspirido, try maybe more zhan zhuang in your routine?


Can't get past the title (people have fought for money a long long time ago) and the first seconds make me think about poor starving children vs those sad exploited ufc fighters.

Should i take up the lotus position and stare at a wall for a few years?

Re: So here's a thing

PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:31 pm
by marvin8
dspyrido wrote:I got through about 5 skips of listening for 1 second intervals. No idea the point . . . it was painful.

Me too. Not sure it's relevant. However, here is Enson Inoue's experience with the Yakuza and MMA:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6fm2JCrlMo

I will add that the recent trade with Demetrius Johnson (going to One Championship) and Ben Askren (to UFC) has opened the doors for more financial opportunities for the fighters. Like dspyrido says fighting for a living is a choice.