Tai Chi Form Applications — Eli Montaigue

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Tai Chi Form Applications — Eli Montaigue

Postby marvin8 on Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:00 am

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Eli's tip of the day. Covering how to understand the martial applications behind the more flamboyant postures in your martial arts:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uzf4Mbr7Mvo
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Re: Tai Chi Form Applications — Eli Montaigue

Postby GrahamB on Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:06 am

WATAH!
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Re: Tai Chi Form Applications — Eli Montaigue

Postby Ron Panunto on Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:51 am

Just don't step on his blue suede shoes.
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Re: Tai Chi Form Applications — Eli Montaigue

Postby Bao on Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:13 pm

Looks overly tense as usual. Maybe he should start practicing Tai Chi to start to become more calm and learn how to breath...

Ron Panunto wrote:Just don't step on his blue suede shoes.


Lol! ;D
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Re: Tai Chi Form Applications — Eli Montaigue

Postby northern_mantis on Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:23 pm

Funny that a lot of the made up Montaigue stuff is still better than 90% of the authentic lineage Tai Chi out there. An interesting thought that makes me not be too precious about Tai Chi and just use what works for me.
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Re: Tai Chi Form Applications — Eli Montaigue

Postby Bao on Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:50 pm

northern_mantis wrote:Funny that a lot of the made up Montaigue stuff is still better than 90% of the authentic lineage Tai Chi out there. An interesting thought that makes me not be too precious about Tai Chi and just use what works for me.


You need to compare punches with punches, qinna with qinna, zhan zhuang with zhan zhuang, basic Shenfa with basic Shenfa etc. I personally can’t find anything in punching, qinna, zhan zhuang or Shenfa that he did better than what you can find in traditional lineages.
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Re: Tai Chi Form Applications — Eli Montaigue

Postby wayne hansen on Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:10 pm

northern_mantis wrote:Funny that a lot of the made up Montaigue stuff is still better than 90% of the authentic lineage Tai Chi out there. An interesting thought that makes me not be too precious about Tai Chi and just use what works for me.



If you think that I would love to see some film of your stuff
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Re: Tai Chi Form Applications — Eli Montaigue

Postby Trick on Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:36 pm

northern_mantis wrote:Funny that a lot of the made up Montaigue stuff is still better than 90% of the authentic lineage Tai Chi out there. An interesting thought that makes me not be too precious about Tai Chi and just use what works for me.

better at what?
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Re: Tai Chi Form Applications — Eli Montaigue

Postby northern_mantis on Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:55 am

Erle hit harder than anybody else I've held pads for which include Olympic level boxers and Pro Muay Thai fighters. He could show how to derive that level of power through form practice and standing although as far as I can tell he figured that out for himself rather than was taught it.
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Re: Tai Chi Form Applications — Eli Montaigue

Postby wayne hansen on Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:42 pm

Still want to see you do something
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Re: Tai Chi Form Applications — Eli Montaigue

Postby Trick on Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:58 pm

well we can relax now that we know that 90% of authentic taijiquan linages are in the same league as olypic boxers and pro kickboxers 8)
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Re: Tai Chi Form Applications — Eli Montaigue

Postby northern_mantis on Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:58 am

If you have found some good fighty Tai Chi then good for you. I've only come across well respected Yang, Chen and Wu instructors who would get destroyed by a good amateur boxer. Erle's stuff (can't speak for his son) was as good as I've felt even though most of his stories to me seemed like BS.
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Re: Tai Chi Form Applications — Eli Montaigue

Postby northern_mantis on Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:00 am

wayne hansen wrote:Still want to see you do something


Don't do online video but happily meet up for push hands or maybe a bit of MOQ if in the mood (takes a while to get going being the wrong side of 40).
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Re: Tai Chi Form Applications — Eli Montaigue

Postby GrahamB on Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:43 am

I can't seem to find your clips online Wayne?
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Re: Tai Chi Form Applications — Eli Montaigue

Postby wayne hansen on Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:50 am

Not looking too hard then
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