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I heard legendary stories as this man as a kid taking on bulls. Thanks to the internet I finally got to see edited highlight footage with the best of Mas Oyama wrestling a bull.
Now what was all the fuss about? Bulls don't hit back and he basically just twisted the bulls neck until the bull was injured. WTF? How is that impressive?
Re: The Great Mas Oyama?
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:25 am
by Bao
He is strong, no doubt about that... But chopping of a horn? Lol! What a laugh. Yeah, I watched this a long time a go and had a laugh.
The power of editing... In the old times when people didn't understand exactly how movies were made...
He strikes towards the horn, his hand disappears behind the Bull's head. Then there's a cut to the horn on the ground. Probably sawed from a dead bull. It's so simple. Yet no proof or footage of him actually cutting a bull's horn or killing a bull with hos hands. Only a myth spread by enthusiastic Karatekas who want to believe. ... and ironically enough partially the same crowd who laugh at Qi ... Religious beliefs take many different shapes and forms...
Re: The Great Mas Oyama?
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:54 am
by marvin8
Starting at 6:41, Blumming says they hammered the ox's horn loose.
Martial Nerd Published on Apr 27, 2017
Jon Blumming talking about all Oyama"s marketing and nonsense:
I also heard that Oyama would have people tranquilize and weaken the bull "just enough" before he engaged in his famous "man vs. bull" stunt.
Too bad he's no longer with us. I would have loved to see him try to wrestle and chop a horn off one of these:
Re: The Great Mas Oyama?
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 7:59 am
by roger hao
Of course you guys know they wrestle bulls at every Texas rodeo? Did Mas ever ride a giant champion bull for 8 seconds? The bulls he face were not even close to a riding bull they were same as the rodeo.
Re: The Great Mas Oyama?
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:42 am
by Trick
and then we also have oyamas friend and karate great gogen(the cat)yamaguchi who claimed to have killed an wild tiger with his bare hands. he was captured by russians while stationed in manchuria. he claimed russian soldiers throwed him into a deep pit where they kept an tiger, but insted of being shredded by the big cat he karate chopped it to death, well maybe he trew some kick at it too. after this incident, or rather after telling of this incident he was nicknamed "The Cat"
Re: The Great Mas Oyama?
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:16 am
by Appledog
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Re: The Great Mas Oyama?
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:26 am
by windwalker
roger hao wrote:Of course you guys know they wrestle bulls at every Texas rodeo? Did Mas ever ride a giant champion bull for 8 seconds? The bulls he face were not even close to a riding bull they were same as the rodeo.
wayne hansen wrote:I think you might find the cat got his name through his heavy use of the cat stance
the tiger killing story is out there, and was first told by the master himself.....yes he did often pose in the cat stance
Re: The Great Mas Oyama?
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:06 am
by jaime_g
One thing that I really hate about my country (Spain) is bullfighting. That said, Oyama would be mince meat in a few seconds against a real bull.
Fortunatelly that world is fading and losing support, but we used to breed real monsters here (modern bulls are smaller). Not so long ago fighting bulls were able to kill tigers and lions (even against two of them at the same time). Texas bulls are cute cows in comparison
Re: The Great Mas Oyama?
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:09 am
by grzegorz
Here is a video of kungfu fighters.who wrestle bullls. Impressive yes but legendary?
Watch "Nevermind bullfighting... this is BULL WRESTLING (Guanniu)" on YouTube
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:20 pm
, but that's more than big enough.