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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:27 amgrzegorz wrote:Here is a video of kungfu fighters.who wrestle bullls. Impressive yes but legendary?
Watch "Nevermind bullfighting... this is BULL WRESTLING (Guanniu)" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/hocFI16tCi0
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:21 amPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:18 amPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:26 am
. Seems that in the XIX century they tried almost any available animal against bulls.
)Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:41 pmPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:44 pmPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:01 pmGraculus wrote:Although it's not as visible in fighting bulls, it's very clear in bull riding that the bulls not only buck up and down but twist as well (unlike horses, which have a far more two dimensional movement), making them very unpredictable and difficult to deal with.
Not having had much direct contact with bulls, I used to imagine them as working in straight lines, but clearly there is much more to them than that!
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Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:15 pmPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:25 pmPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:54 pmPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 11:31 pmPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2019 3:09 ammarvin8 wrote:Starting at 6:41, Blumming says they hammered the ox's horn loose.
Martial Nerd
Published on Apr 27, 2017
Jon Blumming talking about all Oyama"s marketing and nonsense:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oXh_NpgQjU&t=6m41s
Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2019 6:03 amwayne hansen wrote:Don't the torriadors and picadors stab the shit out it the Bulls neck with short spears to give the Matadors a distinct advantage
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:02 amhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GwonbeopMas Oyama's testimony on Gwonbeop in the modern era[edit]
"'백만인의 가라테'의 저자 소개를 보면, 그는 9세 경에 권법을 배워 중학 2년에 초단이 되었다고 하고 있어 권법을 배웠다고 할 수 있다. 하지만, 전 세계의 무예를 소개하는 내용에는 조선의 무예를 서술하면서 그 특징으로 박치기와 머리카락(댕기머리?) 치기, 어깨치기 등의 특이한 기법이 있었다고 하며 발을 사용하는 소년과 선비의 대결 모습을 그림으로 표현하면서, ‘조선권법’이라고 기재하고 있어".[7] Translation: "In the author biography in the book '1 Million's Karate', Oyama learned Gwonbub at age 9, he became black belt in the 2nd grade of middle school. It can be said that he learned Gwonbeop. In his contents introducing martial arts of the world, he described Korean martial art. In characteristics, there are headbutt, hair strike, shoulder strike, etc special techniques. He showed a picture of a boy and a man kicking; he called it Chosun(Korean)-Gwonbeop."
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:58 amSteve James wrote:wayne hansen wrote:Don't the torriadors and picadors stab the shit out it the Bulls neck with short spears to give the Matadors a distinct advantage
Yep. It's a weakened bull, for sure, because he's tired. He's also enraged, and a weak bull is still more than able to wipe out any man. If it were simple, anyone could do it. Do ya think it's enough of an advantage that you'd be willing to try?
I'm not really in favor of bull-fighting, but I think it's a way of killing a bull that people who eat steaks often claim is cruel. Otoh, people who support it often say that it's a much better way for a bull to die. Um, btw, I don't favor cock-fighting or horse racing either.