So why does Chen Pao Chui set look . . .
Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 8:25 pm
So why does the present day Chen Pao Chui set look nothing much like any Pao Quan and Pao Chui style from Henan?
The Chen Yi Lu set for sure is totally in common with Shaolin Hong Quan, Tai Tzu Quan, Rou Quan, Tong Bei, and other styles and can be matched up sequence by sequence.
But not the Chen Pao Chui set. It looks nothing like any Shaolin Pao Quan set, nothing like San Huang Pao Quan (except for a couple generic moves), and nothing like Tong Bei Pao Quan (which is technically should, since the Chen claim is that their stuff comes from Tong Bei originally).
And, supposedly the Pao Chui set(s) were lost long before Yang Lu Chan went to Chen village. There is no Pao Chui in Yang style, which is strange, since they have Large frame and Small Frame.
But, and I have seen rumors of this on some Chinese sites, that the Postural movements of the Chen Pao Chui set does in fact match up very well with Beijing Baji Quan, which was practiced by the very same Imperial Guards who were learning Tai Ji Quan. That it was retrofitted after Yang Taiji Quan was already being taught in Beijing. They were saying that even the stepping patterns are like Baji Spear stepping patterns, not like Chen's Yi Lu set, which is like Sword stepping.
this typical Shaolin Pao Quan:
San Huang Pao Chui (whch is from Emei anyways, too far from Chen village):
72 Pao Quan practiced near the temple where the original Chen ancestors started their research into their art:
Chen Pao Chui Er Lu set:
These are Baji Quan sets, especially look at the 3rd set:
The Chen Yi Lu set for sure is totally in common with Shaolin Hong Quan, Tai Tzu Quan, Rou Quan, Tong Bei, and other styles and can be matched up sequence by sequence.
But not the Chen Pao Chui set. It looks nothing like any Shaolin Pao Quan set, nothing like San Huang Pao Quan (except for a couple generic moves), and nothing like Tong Bei Pao Quan (which is technically should, since the Chen claim is that their stuff comes from Tong Bei originally).
And, supposedly the Pao Chui set(s) were lost long before Yang Lu Chan went to Chen village. There is no Pao Chui in Yang style, which is strange, since they have Large frame and Small Frame.
But, and I have seen rumors of this on some Chinese sites, that the Postural movements of the Chen Pao Chui set does in fact match up very well with Beijing Baji Quan, which was practiced by the very same Imperial Guards who were learning Tai Ji Quan. That it was retrofitted after Yang Taiji Quan was already being taught in Beijing. They were saying that even the stepping patterns are like Baji Spear stepping patterns, not like Chen's Yi Lu set, which is like Sword stepping.
this typical Shaolin Pao Quan:
San Huang Pao Chui (whch is from Emei anyways, too far from Chen village):
72 Pao Quan practiced near the temple where the original Chen ancestors started their research into their art:
Chen Pao Chui Er Lu set:
These are Baji Quan sets, especially look at the 3rd set: