the rum soaked fist: internal martial arts forum

Trip I was not trying to avoid your question and didn't think anything you said was wrong
A real tai chi push is something you don't feel
You are just airborne or crumpled into the ground

Thank you, Wayne!

Thanks for the follow-up
THAT - was very cool of you.

wayne hansen wrote:Trip I was not trying to avoid your question and didn't think anything you said was wrong
A real tai chi push is something you don't feel
You are just airborne or crumpled into the ground

Hi Folks,

Wayne,
Whilst I understand what you're saying here, I do think there are degrees and varying qualities to various forms of a Tai Ji push.

For Instance, The quality is markedly different if it is initiated from the centre (by means of compression and release) and sent to the feet and to the recipient simultaneously, as opposed to the more sequential whipping type push generated from the feet to the hands. The force can appear relatively hard and soft (respectively).

Moreover the subjective quality is also varied by the state in which the recipient finds themself; i.e. an ocean wave can feel soft and supporting if you're riding it as opposed to getting smashed in the face with a breaking wave when you're just standing there.


Konn

What you are describing to me is an abrupt energy press
That was the first way I learnt to apply in tai chi
I loved to shake people with that but soon lost interest
Anything that arrives on the body with energy I call a strike rather than a push
If it arrives softly and sends you flying I consider that a push
Push is the perfect training for a strike
Striking is of little value to the push