Karate Nerd in China (Ep. 1)

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Karate Nerd in China (Ep. 1)

Postby marvin8 on Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:21 am

Jesse Enkamp
Jan 12, 2020

Is traditional Karate just a form of ancient Kung-Fu?

Follow Jesse Enkamp (The Karate Nerd) to learn the lost history of Karate - from China to Okinawa and ultimately Tokyo 2020 Olympics in Japan.

The original name for Karate was "Tode" (唐手) which doesn't mean Empty Hand (空手) but literally translates to "Chinese Hand". That's what all the Okinawan masters called it.

In this episode Jesse discovers Ming He Neipai kata (Nipaipo, a.k.a Ershiba) at a Whooping Crane Kung Fu demonstration, and then learns kata Babulien (Papuren, a.k.a. Happoren) at the famous Crane Temple in Fuzhou from Master Yu Dan Xiu.

An interview with Hanshi Patrick McCarthy (IRKRS, Koryu Uchinadi) confirms this is what's described in Bubishi - The Bible of Karate.

Next stop is Yong Chun village - the birthplace of White Crane!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCvimTuwkZY
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The lost roots of Karate

Postby GrahamB on Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:30 am

https://youtu.be/UCvimTuwkZY



"the rest of the demonstration was some ladies doing Tai Chi and a rare style called Incense Shop Boxing". :)
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Re: The lost roots of Karate

Postby marvin8 on Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:34 am

I already posted this video here: Karate Nerd in China (Ep. 1). I will delete this one, if you do.
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Re: The lost roots of Karate

Postby GrahamB on Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:49 am

It won't let me delete it - I can edit it, but that's all. Sorry.
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Re: The lost roots of Karate

Postby marvin8 on Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:56 am

Can the last person in the thread delete their message? If so, we can try doing that. Mine already has a view count too. If not, I will delete my original thread, after you delete yours, rinse and repeat.

Sorry, you're right. I couldn't delete mine either.
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Re: The lost roots of Karate

Postby GrahamB on Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:57 am

I think only admins can delete threads.
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Re: The lost roots of Karate

Postby Tom on Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:40 am

I'm interested in the competition between original posters of dueling threads--who will get the higher view count? Who is more popular? Who is going to prom?

Let me know which thread to delete. Mostly, I want to know about the rare art of Incense Shop Boxing.
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Re: The lost roots of Karate

Postby marvin8 on Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:58 am

Tom wrote:I'm interested in the competition between original posters of dueling threads--who will get the higher view count? Who is more popular? Who is going to prom?

There is no competition on my part. (I don't have a blog.) View count meaning my thread was already viewed.

Tom wrote:Let me know which thread to delete. Mostly, I want to know about the rare art of Incense Shop Boxing.

I would delete this thread because of the extraneous posts. However, do what you want or GrahamB wants. It's not important to me (or GrahamB I think).
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Re: The lost roots of Karate

Postby GrahamB on Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:00 pm

marvin8 wrote: However, do what you want or GrahamB wants. It's not important to me (or GrahamB I think).


Are you kidding? This is now a competition between the two of us to see who can get the most views.

Thanks to you posting on this thread I've now overtaken you with 107 to you 101 views! Ha! You've played right into my hands.... BWWAAAA HAHAHHA!

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Re: Karate Nerd in China (Ep. 1)

Postby Tom on Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:06 pm

Problem solved: the two shall live as one.

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Admit impediments. Threads are not threads
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It is the balm to every troller's bark,
Whose worth’s unknown, though by ban he dies.
A thread’s not time’s fool, though with disrespect it reeks
The moderator's fresh breeze clears out the room:
A true thread alters not with its brief hours and weeks,
But spirals out even to the edge of doom.
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  I never writ, nor any forum hosted.

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Re: Karate Nerd in China (Ep. 1)

Postby GrahamB on Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:51 pm

I shall represent this with symbols:

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Re: Karate Nerd in China (Ep. 1)

Postby Trick on Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:27 am

Anyway, Jesse Enkamp does a great work with his videos and writings on his webpage https://www.karatebyjesse.com
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Re: Karate Nerd in China (Ep. 1)

Postby Tom on Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:10 pm



Thanks for the link. I'll check it out.
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Re: Karate Nerd in China (Ep. 1)

Postby GrahamB on Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:59 am

I am insensed by this Incence Shop Boxing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STqxqJy ... e=youtu.be

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Re: Karate Nerd in China (Ep. 1)

Postby wayne hansen on Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:33 pm

Too much independent arm action
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