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Taiwanese Tai Chi Master Challenges Xu Xiaodong & Two Boxers

Postby marvin8 on Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:08 pm

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Aug 14, 2020

In this very interesting examination of TCMA vs MMA, we have a Taiwanese self-proclaimed Tai Chi Master named Li Ming challenging MMA Mad Dog Panda Xu Xiaodong. And what's more: Yang Tai Chi Li Ming actually has footage of himself testing his Tai Chi (and Bagua too) against two different boxers in Taiwan. Let's bring in Rob and analyze how well this Tai Chi master does in the ring. Is there any efficacy in his boxing? Could he really take on Xu Xiaodong? Also, what do you think about Li's interesting approach to holding his hands in the ring.

The videos we analyzed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KU1Sa8JdJM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHhy3X6q_OQ
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Re: Taiwanese Tai Chi Master Challenges Xu Xiaodong & Two Boxers

Postby Peacedog on Sun Aug 16, 2020 7:40 am

This should be entitled "the next delusional guy Kung Fu Panda is about to beat down."

Ignoring the 50 pounds Xu has on this guy, his speed and ability to hit hard where do these mentally ill guys come from?
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Re: Taiwanese Tai Chi Master Challenges Xu Xiaodong & Two Boxers

Postby wayne hansen on Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:48 pm

His tai chi is equal to his fighting
Kindergarten stuff
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Re: Taiwanese Tai Chi Master Challenges Xu Xiaodong & Two Boxers

Postby wayne hansen on Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:56 pm

Don't put power into the form let it naturally arise from the form
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Re: Taiwanese Tai Chi Master Challenges Xu Xiaodong & Two Boxers

Postby Trick on Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:41 am

Are there any videos of Xu competing/fighting against other MMAists ? Here on RSF we now and then see videos/reports posted where athletes fight in the UFC, are there any such performance videos of Xu ?
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Re: Taiwanese Tai Chi Master Challenges Xu Xiaodong & Two Boxers

Postby marvin8 on Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:26 pm

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Aug 17, 2020

Our self-proclaimed Taiwanese Tai Chi master Li Ming sparred Qi La La and kickboxing friends back in 2018. Yes, Li Ming has tested out his Tai Chi and Bagua in 2018 against our Wing Chun protegy Qi La La. So this was two years before he challenged MMA Mad Dog Xu Xiaodong. Let's see how Li Ming Tai Chi moves and whether he looks any different in 2018. Has he made any progress since? We all know how he did against two boxers in 2020. Could he really take on Xu Xiaodong?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2yHQ6Xevhs

wayne hansen wrote:https://youtu.be/l5_SQhstBrs

Apparently, wrong guy.

Excerpt from Li Ming's facebook page:

Li Ming wrote:Li Ming Yu is the true inheritance of Yang Jianhou, the son of Yang Luchan, from the line of: Yang Jianhou—Cheng Youlong—Sun Xikun—Xiao Jinzhang—Wang Xiuyan—I

It is the true story of Dong Haichuan and Cheng Tinghua. Teachers: Dong Haichuan-Cheng Tinghua-Cheng Youlong-Sun Xikun-Xiao Jinzhang-Wang Xiuyan-himself. Master Wang Xiuyao is my uncle
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Re: Taiwanese Tai Chi Master Challenges Xu Xiaodong & Two Boxers

Postby aamc on Thu Aug 20, 2020 11:26 am

I find the commentary on these videos so terrible I struggle to watch them. Complaint over.
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Re: Taiwanese Tai Chi Master Challenges Xu Xiaodong & Two Boxers

Postby JoeWood on Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:01 pm

aamc wrote:I find the commentary on these videos so terrible I struggle to watch them. Complaint over.

I have to watch them on mute or find the link to the source to get thru them. Glad I'm not the only one!
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Re: Taiwanese Tai Chi Master Challenges Xu Xiaodong & Two Boxers

Postby wayne hansen on Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:51 pm

marvin8 wrote:Fight Commentary Breakdowns
Aug 17, 2020

Our self-proclaimed Taiwanese Tai Chi master Li Ming sparred Qi La La and kickboxing friends back in 2018. Yes, Li Ming has tested out his Tai Chi and Bagua in 2018 against our Wing Chun protegy Qi La La. So this was two years before he challenged MMA Mad Dog Xu Xiaodong. Let's see how Li Ming Tai Chi moves and whether he looks any different in 2018. Has he made any progress since? We all know how he did against two boxers in 2020. Could he really take on Xu Xiaodong?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2yHQ6Xevhs

wayne hansen wrote:https://youtu.be/l5_SQhstBrs

Apparently, wrong guy.

Excerpt from Li Ming's facebook page:

Li Ming wrote:Li Ming Yu is the true inheritance of Yang Jianhou, the son of Yang Luchan, from the line of: Yang Jianhou—Cheng Youlong—Sun Xikun—Xiao Jinzhang—Wang Xiuyan—I

It is the true story of Dong Haichuan and Cheng Tinghua. Teachers: Dong Haichuan-Cheng Tinghua-Cheng Youlong-Sun Xikun-Xiao Jinzhang-Wang Xiuyan-himself. Master Wang Xiuyao is my uncle



Sorry about that do you have any videos of him beside the one posted
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Re: Taiwanese Tai Chi Master Challenges Xu Xiaodong & Two Boxers

Postby Quigga on Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:48 am

Peacedog wrote:This should be entitled "the next delusional guy Kung Fu Panda is about to beat down."

Ignoring the 50 pounds Xu has on this guy, his speed and ability to hit hard where do these mentally ill guys come from?


When you got an environment where people constantly enforce what you believe to be true, worse, when your echo bubble gives you 'authority' and high status, it's hard not to get caught up in self delusion...
Coupled with a hidden inferiority complex and wanting to be special.
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Re: Taiwanese Tai Chi Master Challenges Xu Xiaodong & Two Boxers

Postby Trick on Sat Aug 22, 2020 2:33 am

Quigga wrote:
Peacedog wrote:This should be entitled "the next delusional guy Kung Fu Panda is about to beat down."

Ignoring the 50 pounds Xu has on this guy, his speed and ability to hit hard where do these mentally ill guys come from?


When you got an environment where people constantly enforce what you believe to be true, worse, when your echo bubble gives you 'authority' and high status, it's hard not to get caught up in self delusion...
Coupled with a hidden inferiority complex and wanting to be special.

What environment ?
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Re: Taiwanese Tai Chi Master Challenges Xu Xiaodong & Two Boxers

Postby marvin8 on Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:49 am

wayne hansen wrote:Sorry about that do you have any videos of him beside the one posted

Only searching youtube on his name "李明."

Li Ming
Jul 6, 2020

Li Ming Yang Style Tai Chi Demonstration


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KU1Sa8JdJM

Li Ming
Jul 6, 2020

In the National Professional Boxing Association, Li Ming only defends and does not fight against first-class active boxers


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZlCc6KfPac

Dongsen News CH51
Aug 15, 2020

Xu Xiaodong, a fighting madman in mainland China, insists that traditional martial arts are "fake". In recent years, he has continuously challenged various "wugong masters". Challenge, although his height and weight are not as good as Xu Xiaodong, he said that he can definitely win with softness, and Xu Xiaodong is not timid, and asks Li Ming to go to Thailand for a formal duel.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBkQBTp3xOY
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Re: Taiwanese Tai Chi Master Challenges Xu Xiaodong & Two Boxers

Postby wayne hansen on Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:53 pm

Thanks for that
Same opinion he will last 30 seconds against anyone who actually wants to hit him
His yang style looks a bit silly with no focus and not very good mechanics
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Re: Taiwanese Tai Chi Master Challenges Xu Xiaodong & Two Boxers

Postby Trick on Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:59 pm

. In the National Professional Boxing Association, Li Ming only defends and does not fight against first-class active boxers
I can’t commenton his Taijiquan since I can’t see the vids, but the quote. Again where are the videos of Xu fighting first class boxers or even low class...or is it only Taiji”masters” that fight (low?) class boxers and Mr.Xu
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Re: Taiwanese Tai Chi Master Challenges Xu Xiaodong & Two Boxers

Postby Peacedog on Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:07 am

I think Xu's whole point is, "I'm old and fat and not that good anymore and I can still kick the crap out of all of these fakes."

Xu is just trying to demonstrate that an MMA practitioner who is in no way great is still better than all of these so-called masters. And on that level he is very effective.
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