Kungfu Clash: Qi La La vs Angry Teddy (Wing Chun vs Shaolin)

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Kungfu Clash: Qi La La vs Angry Teddy (Wing Chun vs Shaolin)

Postby marvin8 on Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:19 pm

Fight Commentary Breakdowns
Dec 31, 2020

We have a very epic clash of styles in this style on style martial arts match. In one corner is Wing Chun favorite Qi La La. Qi La La is a Wong Shun Leung Wing Chunner who also does Xingyi Liuhe Fist (心意六合拳) and Tongbei Fist (與泰拳). Angry Teddy, 巫俊學 (Wu Junxue) does Southern Shaolin Kungfu (南少林拳) and Muay Thai. So this is both a mixed martial arts match and a kungfu match under hybrid King of Dragons (KOD) rules. Let's see which warrior comes out on top. For those of you watching, do you agree with the decision? Do you want more from these two?

Video we analyzed in this match analysis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDTdN4E3UYc
Qi La La Wing Chun (Chen Zhihuang aka Chen Chi-huang) here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0Lzjh ... sTVOFMk-Ag
Angry Teddy Wu Junxue here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-Ma7h ... VB3yzi0Waw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVsJ5Cqy4iQ
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Re: Kungfu Clash: Qi La La vs Angry Teddy (Wing Chun vs Shaolin)

Postby Overlord on Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:32 am

Lao Na from rumor is a student of Zhang Yuanxia and Pan Yue.
Apparently he also is also related to Taiwan Baji style. Don’t know the details though.



For strange reasons he doesn’t disclose his personal info and lineage. But Taiwan is such a small place, every body knows every body.
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Re: Kungfu Clash: Qi La La vs Angry Teddy (Wing Chun vs Shaolin)

Postby marvin8 on Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:16 am

Overlord wrote:Lao Na from rumor is a student of Zhang Yuanxia and Pan Yue.
Apparently he also is also related to Taiwan Baji style. Don’t know the details though.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=L10jgx5Vz2c
https://youtube.com/watch?v=4kbVRMLhsvA ... f&index=10

For strange reasons he doesn’t disclose his personal info and lineage. But Taiwan is such a small place, every body knows every body.

Are you talking about Yuanxia Zhang? Here's his lineage:

Excerpt from "Xin Yi: Who is Xie TieFu?"

Dr. Able Yuanxia Zhang wrote:Xin Yi is the root of Chinese internal martial art. However, due to extreme conservative tradition, nobody seemed to master the whole system of Xin Yi before I found Sifu Chen Shoufu in Flushing, NY. Sifu Chen ShouFu learnt Xin Yi from grandmaster Tie GuoChen, who learnt from his father Tie Si who was the disciple of patriarch Mai ZhuangTu. Here is the linage of my XinYi:

Mai ZhuangTu ---- Tie Si ----Tie GuoChen ---- Chen ShouFu ---- Able Yuanxia Zhang
Mai ZhuangTu ---- Yuan FengYi ---- (Ma XueLi, Yang DianQing, Lu SongGao)
(As for Chinese tradition, last name is in front of first name, so Chen ShouFu陈守孚,in English should be ShouFu Chen. Only my name listed above is in English style)

Grandmaster Lu SongGao was the most famous Xin Yi forerunner in Shanghai. Most of Xin Yi practitioners in Shanghai follow his style. Grandmaster Tie GuoChen is much more conservative, he did not teach many students. Sifu Chen ShouFu is the only disciple taking his whole system.

Tie style is somewhat different from Lu style. When I promoted Tie style, many practitioners from Lu style dislike my big mouth. I do not mean to devaluate Lu style, just emphasize that Tie style is very different, rare, pure, and systematic.

I list my linage, just want to emphasize that this style of Xin Yi is not my creation, it is the treasure of Chinese ancient internal martial art. If I call Xin Yi as the summit of Chinese internal martial art, it is the fact which is not known by people all over the world. Now it is my mission to make it known to the world.)
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Re: Kungfu Clash: Qi La La vs Angry Teddy (Wing Chun vs Shaolin)

Postby marvin8 on Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:08 pm

Jone Wu
May 29, 2020

Ma family's Xin Yi Liu He Quan.
Xin Yi is characterized by aggressive, seemingly linear movements and explosive power that's most often applied from a short range. A practitioner of Xin Yi uses coordinated movements to generate bursts of power intended to overwhelm the opponent, simultaneously attacking and defending.
Henan (an alternative name for Ma family's Xin Yi Liu He Quan).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5eXDOi5J1w

ChinaFromInside by Jarek_Szymanski
Aug 19, 2020

Ma Deyun is one of the leading masters of the less known system of Xinyi Liuhe Quan practised in Luoyang. While the more popular branch from Lushan/Zhoukou has received more attention due to the efforts of the disciples of Yuan Fengyi, especially Lu Songgao, who taught in Shanghai, the Luoyang system has remained relatively obscure and has been taught within the muslim communities of the city only. It comes from Ma Xing, student and relative of Ma Xueli, who was not only a skilful martial artist, but also a well educated military official.

While Luoyang system differs from the Lushan/Zhoukou branch, their theory and principles remain the same.
On this video Ma Deyun, the disciple of famous Jin Heiyan demonstrates and explains the applications of the key basic method of the system - Dan Ba (Single Seize). What makes the video really interesting are the principles of the system behind these simple applications: importance of footwork (old Xinyi Liuhe Quan boxing manual speaks of "defeating all under heaven with the old rooster shape" - Rooster Shape focuses on developing footwork), following the movements of the opponent and adjusting ones stance accordingly (against common idea of xinyi/xingyi as systems with "going through the wall" mindset), fighting in close distance and using the body rather than just hands. Great attention is paid to the correct position of the feet, especially the front foot, which "seizes the ground", while the rear one is the engine behind the movement and its applications.

It shows how direct yet at the same time sophisticated the system is, and how various skills - coordination, footwork, using body - must be developed first to make its techniques effective.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9O2uCdut4g
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Re: Kungfu Clash: Qi La La vs Angry Teddy (Wing Chun vs Shaolin)

Postby .Q. on Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:01 pm


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9O2uCdut4g

1:54 is why you need other classmates around when teacher demonstrates on you, so you can ask them what happened.
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Re: Kungfu Clash: Qi La La vs Angry Teddy (Wing Chun vs Shaolin)

Postby marvin8 on Tue Jan 05, 2021 11:14 am

Overlord wrote:Lao Na from rumor is a student of Zhang Yuanxia and Pan Yue. ...

For strange reasons he doesn’t disclose his personal info and lineage.

At 3:24, Qi La La confirms, "My lineage (Xingyi Liuhe) comes from Shanghai, Chen Shoufu Shifu."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr1tocfrF-c&t=3m24s

Fight Commentary Breakdowns
Jan 4, 2021

We have a very epic clash of styles in this style on style martial arts match. In one corner is Wing Chun favorite Qi La La. Qi La La is a Wong Shun Leung lineage Wing Chun practicioner who also does Xingyi Liuhe Fist (心意六合拳) and Tongbei Fist (與泰拳). His opponent is a kickboxing practicioner from the ShieldKickboxing school in Taiwan. Let's see which warrior comes out on top. For those of you watching, do you agree with my assessment that Qi La La is using 80% kungfu? Do you want to see more kungfu from him or less?

Video we analyzed in this match analysis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJcHE60PeYw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXTaPNNVOoo
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Re: Kungfu Clash: Qi La La vs Angry Teddy (Wing Chun vs Shaolin)

Postby Overlord on Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:47 pm

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Re: Kungfu Clash: Qi La La vs Angry Teddy (Wing Chun vs Shaolin)

Postby Overlord on Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:51 pm

22 years ago, the Shanghai Xinyi I was shown in secret did not have stomping.
However, continuous chicken steps was used to build up foundation, it is swift but soft and elastic.
Guess different school has different emphasis.
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