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I am not sure if your referring to me there Ian I did watch the video but am not convinced by the argument A lot of people think the various high,round and spinning kicks came to Karate via Tong Soo Do and Hwang Gi
Re: Karate is the Japanese Savate
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:58 pm
by Ian C. Kuzushi
No, it was just a more general comment really stemming from G's last post about "martial arts" in the West.
As an aside, tang soo do was one of the first arts I did, and they admitted that it came from karate.
Re: Karate is the Japanese Savate
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:16 pm
by Steve James
Seems to me that the history of kicks in taekwondo would be relevant.
Re: Karate is the Japanese Savate
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:02 pm
by GrahamB
Steve James wrote:Seems to me that the history of kicks in taekwondo would be relevant.
Interesting discussion. I'll look a little more into Tekkyon, just for fun. Anyway, I agree with the idea that people are attached more to the myths of their ma than they should.
Re: Karate is the Japanese Savate
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:38 pm
by GrahamB
Steve James wrote:Interesting discussion. I'll look a little more into Tekkyon, just for fun. Anyway, I agree with the idea that people are attached more to the myths of their ma than they should.
Hell yes they are!
Re: Karate is the Japanese Savate
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:29 pm
by Ian C. Kuzushi
Tekkyon is another of those invented traditions--or at least a reverse engineered one.
Re: Karate is the Japanese Savate
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:51 pm
by yeniseri
I like the research done by Jesse Enkamp! He even interviewed one of the modern writers who translated the Bubishi! He even had profiled a kata! fronm Chinese origins that is stated to be an origin into many system of SE Asia. Check him out! Jesse Enkamp, mi gente!
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:19 pm