Master Simu Kuo (wife of the late master Sifu Kuo Lien Ying)

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Re: Master Simu Kuo (wife of the late master Sifu Kuo Lien Ying)

Postby shawnsegler on Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:41 am

Kuo's stuff is legit.

Just fyi, Kuo's organization puts a heavy emphasis on training Tantui and Cha Boxing before they take up taiji, so you'll often see a lot of that flavor carrying through.

That being said, as far as the taiji goes, there's a section in the Guang Ping form that is 100 percent identical in a Zhaobao form I've seen....so, take that from it what you will.

Their stuff is first rate and the people from that lineage that I've who I've met that are good are VERY good. It's disseminated to a LOT of people who only do it for health, but it's a real fighting system, so it's a pretty mixed bag. I wouldn't base an opinion on the style by looking at Simu.

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Re: Master Simu Kuo (wife of the late master Sifu Kuo Lien Ying)

Postby shawnsegler on Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:43 am

Here's my old teacher from that lineages, disciple (many years ago) doing a couple of their muslim longfist routines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsznoNyvWGU
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Re: Master Simu Kuo (wife of the late master Sifu Kuo Lien Ying)

Postby Giles on Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:21 am

robert wrote:Also KLY's student Y.C. Chiang



This I like very much indeed. I'm glad to get new perspectives on this style - I think my Spock eyebrow is lowering ;)

Shawn: you mention you met very good people from this style. I assume you also crossed hands with them in some fashion. What kind of qualities did you experience, and did any of these qualities seem to relate to aspects of the form in question? Do you know what kinds of partner training they did?
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Re: Master Simu Kuo (wife of the late master Sifu Kuo Lien Ying)

Postby Shinobi on Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:46 pm

Is Kuo definitely Yang Banhou lineage? I remember reading something where Tian Zhaolin's son said both the Guang Ping and Yangjia Michuan Tai Chi didn't come from Banhou and Jianhou. Maybe he was making it up and wanted his father's Tai Chi to be seen as the best non YCF Yang lineage Tai Chi.
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Re: Master Simu Kuo (wife of the late master Sifu Kuo Lien Ying)

Postby nicklinjm on Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:47 pm

Tbh that is opening up a historical can of worms. Nowadays we can see the form of inheritors of Yang Banhou from the Yang family home town (Yongnian, both from YBH's grand-nephew Bai Zhongxin and his disciple Li Wancheng) and Kuo's form is pretty different, both in terms of moves and shenfa.

Same goes for Wang Yannian's Yang style - it may well have many elements of Old Yang from Yang Jianhou, but by comparing to the form of the students of Xu Yusheng, Niu Chunming, Tian Zhaolin etc we can see that it is not 'the' Old Yang form as claimed.
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