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Practical method and Wrestling.

Postby aamc on Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:45 am



I thought this an interesting exchange. I thought there's a clear difference in the body posture and FWIW I was impressed with the Practical Method's exponents sprawl.
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Re: Practical method and Wrestling.

Postby dspyrido on Tue Mar 30, 2021 4:25 am

This is great. They are really both doing what they do from their frames.

The interesting thing to note though is that the shuaijow guy is putting himself at a disadvantage when trying to connect with the arms first & then shoot. It plays into the push hands world.

The answer to this from a western wrestling perspective is to break off & shoot below the arms.





I think this dynamic would be different & both guys would have to make changes but it would be an great to watch how they adapt.
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Re: Practical method and Wrestling.

Postby taichibum on Wed Mar 31, 2021 10:48 pm

The wrestler in the video is not a Shuai Jiao guy. The Chinese at the bottom says he is a freestyle wrestler. His movement is definitely not Shuai Jiao.
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Re: Practical method and Wrestling.

Postby dspyrido on Thu Apr 01, 2021 12:04 am

taichibum wrote:His movement is definitely not Shuai Jiao.


How so?

If he is a wrestler then why did he not touch a knee or hand to the mat when attempting a takedown. The only times he does is when he gets countered or taken down.

He never did any low singles, under arm spins, duck unders or suplexes. I don't think he even did a head or arm snap down which are bread and butter wrestling moves.

He tried to do trips and leg hooks as seen a lot more in sj & judo. Even hip throws. Wrestlers might do these moves but it's much rarer. They don't often do to hip, shoulder or headlock throws due to the danger of a suplex or being pancaked.

He even does some rou shou!

If he's a "wrestler" (ie assuming a western coach) he's not been trained by one or is choosing not to apply the basic moves.
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Re: Practical method and Wrestling.

Postby yeniseri on Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:53 am

taichibum wrote:The wrestler in the video is not a Shuai Jiao guy. The Chinese at the bottom says he is a freestyle wrestler. His movement is definitely not Shuai Jiao.


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Liuhebafa (6 combination/8 methods) is about utilitty and function within the martial space along with application (the endpoint) of that skill.

p.s. I am not talking about the art known as Liuhebafa but concepts and unity of skill within reaping/throwing/pushing, grabbing, emptying, etc
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