It is a nice clip
thanks Doc
cloudz wrote:It is a nice clip
thanks Doc
[/quote]cloudz wrote:Bao wrote:
Actually I didn’t. I started with saying: “ I can’t speak of all “Wudang Practical Tai Chi Chuan”, but I know some people there...”
and i did say you had a fair observation - on the surface.. but i do think it's a bit of a cop out, and just covered yourself at the get go to go ahead with what then sounded like a critique.
but fair enough.
By using the Dantian I mean that your body moves from a center.
so then I don't think that critique is a fair or valid one - applied across the board.
what I mean is that it is taught. i find it a bit hard to believe the teacher you came across was totally oblivious to something so basic and fundamental.
look he may not have been great, I don't know. but surely you owe it yourself to base an opinion on a good example.
there are poor examples of any art, system etc.
“Using external strength” means “Li”, or exerting muscle force as opposed to refined jin which in Tai Chi means that you relax the muscles while moving and using your body and limbs. This means that you use the functionality of the muscles that, for example, drives the arm forward or up, but you don’t tense up the muscles. Mostly, tensions and tensing up the body unnecessarily is a reflex, something most people do automatically. You need to practice in a way that you re-program your body use if you are going to understand how to use “Jin“, or a more efficient use of the body. If you practice “techniques” in an external manner without deliberately minding your use of your balance, structure and body tension, you will never learn how to develop jin.
ok then.
I consider myself educated on the matter now.
but for the record just replacing one word for another - foreign or not - neither changes or explains fuck all.
However, there are always levels between using the body in different ways. Using common strength in a common way doesn’t always mean unrefined or clumsy. You can also use common strength or “li” together with good use of leverage and timing. This way even ”li” can be used in a refined manner that becomes effortless.
do let me know, when you can turn water into wine.
I don’t believe that even 0.001 percent of Tai Chi practitioners uses the term dantian in an “internal” way.
aha
something we agree on
[/quote]Skill and refinement comes in many different shapes and forms.
no, you know them when you see them never the less, they are the same just expressed in different disciplines, arts, systems, sports - whatever.
I'm not sure what you're really trying to say, so I'm going to conclude it's an attempt at obfuscation.
cloudz wrote:Hi Bao
My apologies if that came off a little confrontational.
There are instructors all over Europe and wider, Dan made a good business model for himself I think, but that’s a double edged sword.
Plus There some pros to being a bit ‘external’ in the early stages- when it comes to practical training. But that shouldn’t be all there is to tai chi. Without certain guidance and or talent etc. Some won’t find a way to greater refinement and skill. There can be any number of reasons why that could be.
wayne hansen wrote:Even though there is not a lot online
I don't see much difference between what Dan shows and what Chen Tin Hung taught
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