Just some old Wu 武 style Taiji clips

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Just some old Wu 武 style Taiji clips

Postby dacheng on Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:56 am

Yao Jizu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oaw42KC2GQ0

Some folks from Wei Peilin line, a clip from 1996
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ydY8f96Ih0

Both Yao Jizu and Wei Peilin learned from Li Xunzhi, who was Li Yiyu's son. My Wu style master Zhai Weichuan learned from Wei Peilin first, and when that passed away continued learning from Yao Jizu.
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Re: Just some old Wu 武 style Taiji clips

Postby wayne hansen on Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:25 pm

The first clip they change Wu styles half way thru
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Re: Just some old Wu 武 style Taiji clips

Postby dacheng on Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:40 am

wayne hansen wrote:The first clip they change Wu styles half way thru


???

Somehow I'm not able to understand the meaning of this statement...

The first clip is Yao Jizu demonstrating Wu 武 style, just small pieces of demonstrations from various periods, not in any chronological order unfortunately. Actually the second demonstration is the earliest, it was at the big Taijiquan meeting in Wuhan in 1984, so you can see a bit younger Yao Jizu there. Beginning and further parts are from 1990s, some might be close to 1998, when he passed away.
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Re: Just some old Wu 武 style Taiji clips

Postby Bao on Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:47 pm

dacheng wrote:Somehow I'm not able to understand the meaning of this statement...

The first clip is Yao Jizu demonstrating Wu 武 style, just small pieces of demonstrations from various periods, not in any chronological order unfortunately.


Unlike modern Hao which has one standard long form, Old Wu has several different frames and forms. It’s a very complex and varied system. I do agree with Wayne that the different clips represent different frames.
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Re: Just some old Wu 武 style Taiji clips

Postby dacheng on Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:55 pm

Different frames of a style is not the same as different styles. Anyway there is not even a difference of a frame here. The differences in the first clip are more a result of demonstrations made by Yao Jizu being at different age.

The second clip is of course different story. But Wayne was talking about the first clip.
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Re: Just some old Wu 武 style Taiji clips

Postby Bao on Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:34 am

“Anyway there is not even a difference of a frame here“


It's the same form. Frames however represent different focuses. Sometimes it's very hard to see differences if you don't exactly know what you are looking for.

The same form is demonstrated in the clips below, by the same master. Still they are performed using different frames:

"Coiling Frame"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELEPd-GyyhI

"Waist Power Frame"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6OC-7CGczI

"Internal Power Issuing Frame"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nveGWAlF1u0
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Re: Just some old Wu 武 style Taiji clips

Postby windwalker on Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:20 am

Bao wrote:
The same form is demonstrated in the clips below, by the same master. Still they are performed using different frames:


Interesting

Was under the impression “frame”
referred to large, medium, small
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Re: Just some old Wu 武 style Taiji clips

Postby Doc Stier on Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:13 am

windwalker wrote:
Bao wrote:
The same form is demonstrated in the clips below, by the same master. Still they are performed using different frames:


Interesting

Was under the impression “frame”
referred to large, medium, small

Me, too. Go figure. :o
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Re: Just some old Wu 武 style Taiji clips

Postby wayne hansen on Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:31 pm

My mistake I thought you were saying it was old Wu chien chuan form not old Wuu form
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Re: Just some old Wu 武 style Taiji clips

Postby allen2saint on Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:41 am

Frames however represent different focuses


Master class level stuff here. I never would have thought of that, but it makes total sense, seeing it now.
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Re: Just some old Wu 武 style Taiji clips

Postby dacheng on Sun Jun 13, 2021 7:04 am

wayne hansen wrote:My mistake I thought you were saying it was old Wu chien chuan form not old Wuu form


Actually my intention was to say old clips, not old style :-)

To avoid mixing the Wu styles up I used the chinese character 武.

The Wu Jianquan (Wu Ch'ien Ch'uan) style is written with 吴.
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Re: Just some old Wu 武 style Taiji clips

Postby wayne hansen on Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:56 pm

I don’t read Chinese that’s why I go on English sites
So you can see the reason for my error
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Re: Just some old Wu 武 style Taiji clips

Postby Doc Stier on Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:41 pm

wayne hansen wrote:I don’t read Chinese that’s why I go on English sites
So you can see the reason for my error

No worries. It's all good. :)
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