vadaga wrote:@Marvin8 - the roll through might have been more applicable. Demonstrated at the end of both of these two vids
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeygKPocLgQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-70kic2RBl8
I may be missing the point. Ramsey's topic was floating and countering. Lukas timed his Harai Goshi, controlled the way he landed in relation to the opponent and applied Kesa Gatame, in a way that made it harder for the opponent to roll through.
vadaga wrote:I am not the judo expert here but most of the things I have been seeing on youtube says that you need control of the one arm and no locked bearhug to succeed with koshi guruma or you will either get rolled through or suplexed
Afa suplex
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TrQY6GHM9s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScS9RnQwCxE
As shown in your videos, a suplex needs space and is more difficult when the opponent is against a cage or wall. Not only that, but they were chest to chest, not chest to back. That's why the guy walked Lukas to the center of the cage and tried to throw/reap Lukas forwards. How often this situation occurs or can be set up is another consideration.