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The Roadmap — Authentic Guide to Practicing Nei Gong Pt 1

PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 8:06 pm
by marvin8
Oct 10, 2021

Part four of my exclusive interview with Master Yap Boh Heong discussing the Yan Shou Gong, an authentic Nei Gong system created by two Grandmasters of Southern Shaolin, Grandmaster Chee Kim Thong, and Grandmaster Yap Cheng Hai. I'm currently working closely with Master Yap to produce a comprehensive online training program that will include the original methods and in-door teachings of Shaolin Nei Gong. The online course will be released on The Martial Man website later this year. Create a free account to ensure you're notified when the course is officially released.

0:00 Intro
0:12 The Roadmap
8:08 The Power Plant Model
11:59 The Learning Triangle
17:04 The Five Stages Of Development
25:02 The Six Levels of Energy
35:21 The Milestones
45:35 Yan Shou Gong online course

Re: The Roadmap — Authentic Guide to Practicing Nei Gong Pt 1

PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:04 am
by Bao
He said that he made up the roadmap, so the title should probably be: "The Roadmap — Guide to Authentic Neigong" instead of "The Roadmap — Authentic Guide to Practicing Nei Gong."

I've heard this about the "six stages" a lot lately: "Li - Jin - Yi - Qi - Shen - Kong". Seems like quite a few people use it. He said that it's a Shaolin explanation, but Mizner and other Tai Chi people use it. Yap Boh Heong's explanation is quite good as he tries to point out that they overlap, but I don't fully agree.

These concepts and terms don't really make up stages. Yi, qi, shen are things that nourishes each other, something you always have, and always work with together, and something you will always continue to develop further. Lower level or higher level, Jin is still the expression of your accumulated skill. Regardless what stage you have achieved, the expression of strength is still always called jin. It can be refined and can be developed from "general jin" to "taiji jin", "Xingyi jin", "Bagua Jin" and then further into more advanced stages with their own style specific names. But again, it's still called jin. "Kong" or emptiness is a mind-state you will understand later when you have reached a certain level when all of the building blocks have been fitted into place.

Re: The Roadmap — Authentic Guide to Practicing Nei Gong Pt 1

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:16 pm
by robert
That's pretty good. I saw the Shaolin neigong attribution and didn't watch right away. To a large extent it matches my experience in taiji. Thanks for posting.

Re: The Roadmap — Authentic Guide to Practicing Nei Gong Pt 1

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:13 pm
by everything
Think they overlap as well. I made a whole post about learning to kick harder.

- if I muscle it, of course it’s crude
- if I use stretch reflex, it’s like a release of the bow and arrow.
- that isn’t really “song”: it’s more activate the recíprocal inhibition.
- that happens automatically NOT directly - same as with the doctor checking your reflex. There isn’t a need to be “song” lol
- fascia and eccentric strength has to be developed outside the technique not as something used directly and certainly not as THE thing or somehow equivalent to Qigong smh lol. It’s just a component
- when I add a little qigong, everything feels easier is the best way to describe it
- the emptiness is the hardest part. In game can you do that at the exact right moment with all those factors