Ariela Westlake & Oyuntana - Wrestling with Tradition

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Ariela Westlake & Oyuntana - Wrestling with Tradition

Postby wushutiger on Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:39 am

The 2nd video from my trip to Inner Mongolia

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Re: Ariela Westlake & Oyuntana - Wrestling with Tradition

Postby nicklinjm on Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:44 pm

Really nice vid, v inspirational, keep up the good work Byron!
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Re: Ariela Westlake & Oyuntana - Wrestling with Tradition

Postby wayne hansen on Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:20 pm

What does she mean by folk wrestling
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Re: Ariela Westlake & Oyuntana - Wrestling with Tradition

Postby yeniseri on Fri Dec 03, 2021 1:17 pm

Steppe people in rural areas today (Mongolia, Kazakistan, etc) learn the village art that has been passed on but it is only when they reach the urban areas, they realize that certain "styles" (categarizatio comes into being) become pronounced so they contine, or are chosen for (if interested) or show an inclincation so they learn to adapt, counter, integrate, etc other styles they may come upon in competition.
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Re: Ariela Westlake & Oyuntana - Wrestling with Tradition

Postby wushutiger on Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:50 pm

Really nice vid, v inspirational, keep up the good work Byron!


Glad you enjoyed it!

What does she mean by folk wrestling


Follow her on Instagram and chat to her, I am sure she will let you know :)
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Re: Ariela Westlake & Oyuntana - Wrestling with Tradition

Postby GrahamB on Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:21 am

Love these videos from Mongolia - and the training clips here were really nice to see. An interesting subject this one too.

Wayne - folk style is what they do in the US. In colleges:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collegiate_wrestling
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Postby GrahamB on Mon Dec 06, 2021 10:59 am

No, Tom. Freestyle is different again.

"Freestyle wrestling is a style of martial art wrestling. Along with Greco-Roman, it is one of the two styles of wrestling contested in the Olympic Games. American high school and men's college wrestling is conducted under different rules and is termed scholastic and collegiate wrestling. American collegiate women's wrestling is conducted under freestyle rules"

"Collegiate wrestling (also known as folkstyle wrestling) is the form of wrestling practiced mainly by men at the college and university level in the United States. "

Popular MMA fighter Ben Askren is a famous for winning trophies in folkstyle and also freestyle for example. He does the wrestling that Americans do in college, i.e. a distinct "folkstyle" to the traditional folk wrestling styles, like Lancashire or Cornish wrestling.

Freestyle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freestyle_wrestling

different to:

Folkstyle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collegiate_wrestling
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Re: Ariela Westlake & Oyuntana - Wrestling with Tradition

Postby wayne hansen on Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:01 am

I thought she said she grew up doing folk wrestling
Could she mean something like catch as catch can
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Re: Ariela Westlake & Oyuntana - Wrestling with Tradition

Postby GrahamB on Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:07 am

Wayne, You can dream she's the hero of an obscure western style of folk wrestling if you like :) but I'm going to assume she's effectively saying she did wrestling in high school/college/whateverthoseamericanscallit.
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Postby Bhassler on Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:21 pm

Folk wrestling and folkstyle wresting are different things. This, presumably, is the reason for using different words in naming them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folk_wrestling
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Postby Bill on Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:05 pm

Folk style wrestling is what I did in grade school and high school.
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Re: Ariela Westlake & Oyuntana - Wrestling with Tradition

Postby nicklinjm on Mon Dec 06, 2021 6:05 pm

Love how quickly discussions devolve into terminology nitpicking on the InterWebz ;) A simple Google reveals that Ariela was on her varsity wrestling team, so in all probability she meant US collegiate wrestling.

Will leave it to our other forum members as to whether that should be called folk-, free- or something else entirely!
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Re: Ariela Westlake & Oyuntana - Wrestling with Tradition

Postby marvin8 on Mon Dec 06, 2021 6:45 pm

nicklinjm wrote:Love how quickly discussions devolve into terminology nitpicking on the InterWebz ;) A simple Google reveals that Ariela was on her varsity wrestling team, so in all probability she meant US collegiate wrestling.

Will leave it to our other forum members as to whether that should be called folk-, free- or something else entirely!

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Linkedin wrote:Petaluma High School
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Activities and Societies: Petaluma Varsity Wrestling Team


Excerpt from "Scholastic wrestling:"

Wikipedia wrote:Scholastic wrestling, sometimes known in the United States as folkstyle wrestling, is a style of amateur wrestling practiced at the high school and middle school levels in the United States. This wrestling style is essentially collegiate wrestling with some slight modifications. It is practiced in 49 of the 50 states in the United States. When practiced by wrestling clubs of younger participants, scholastic wrestling is better known as "folkstyle".
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Re: Ariela Westlake & Oyuntana - Wrestling with Tradition

Postby wayne hansen on Mon Dec 06, 2021 10:17 pm

The only reason I mentioned it was because she said it in the clip
I had never heard the term before
Two of my closest cousins were Australian Greco Roman champions
I worked with George Barns who taught me a lot about professional wrestling
The place I taught tai chi was run by Demro Morgan the son of the great wrestler Hal Morgan
Because of that background I found the clip quite interesting
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Re: Ariela Westlake & Oyuntana - Wrestling with Tradition

Postby Doc Stier on Mon Dec 06, 2021 10:44 pm

Whata hoot! ;D

You guys are great! At the end of the day, what's in a name? LOL :P
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