wayne hansen wrote:One of my Wu teachers did this form
I can’t remember now weather he attributed it to ban Hou or shou Hou
He only did it for demos so I only saw it half a dozen times
C.J.W. wrote:retained some of the silk-reeling and fajin movements characteristic of Chen style but still has a compact Yang style feel to it.
This certainly looks like something Yang Luchan and his sons would've invented while they were transitioning from Chen to Yang.
Bao wrote:C.J.W. wrote:retained some of the silk-reeling and fajin movements characteristic of Chen style but still has a compact Yang style feel to it.
This certainly looks like something Yang Luchan and his sons would've invented while they were transitioning from Chen to Yang.
Don't understand what everyone assumes that what YLC learned from CCX looked like the Chen style seen today.
C.J.W. wrote:Well, since there are still lineages of Chen style that can be traced directly back to CCX, I think it's fair to say that even modern practitioners like us can still get a decent idea of what YLC learned from CCX.
Doc Stier wrote:It is a known fact that every major TCC style taught today has been modified and edited in content and stylistic expression by successive family Masters from what their original Founders created, usually in order to promote different teaching and training regimen priorities. Thus, it seems reasonable and logical to believe that both the Chen and Yang styles of Yang Lu-Chan's era were considerably different from what is taught today as the standard in these styles.
Those who insist otherwise often seem reluctant to accept the realization that what they are practicing is not entirely the same thing, despite the fact that the internal cultivation levels and fighting skills of current practitioners rarely, if ever, replicates that of the earlier generations.
Generally speaking, with similarly serious, earnest practice, the same training methods should produce the same or very similar skills. That is normally what any good system of apprenticeship in anything is intended to do. So, either the modern form set standards are different, or the manner of training is different, or both. I believe it is both.
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