Tai Chi Applications & Push Hands Principles — Aiping Cheng

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Re: Tai Chi Applications & Push Hands Principles — Aiping Cheng

Postby everything on Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:01 pm

Already rolled with tournament champions. “Different quality”. It’s not a big versus thing. Just that working on internal at first is simplified with less movement. I cannot do that in real time.
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Re: Tai Chi Applications & Push Hands Principles — Aiping Cheng

Postby Quigga on Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:55 pm

Appledog wrote:
Quigga wrote:You know I don't have any Qi? How?

"If the yi leads the qi what is being discussed here?" I don't get this question. What do you want to know?


I meant 'you' in general and it led into the question. "Sink the Qi into the dantian". What does this mean? The problem with the video and the populace is the people don't know what they're looking at.

Quigga wrote:The code is how it's done. There's layers and layers to the classics. What comes to mind right now is: "In the end, everything is Kai/He, opening/closing." IMO a lot of info that's out there is very misleading and even intentionally so. Easiest way to bind students to you and to keep the secrets. Yes, I'm accusing the major IMA families of doing this, or having done this in the past. In the past, definitely. But the dissemination of misinformation creates a lasting effect. I don't claim everyone is doing this, but I also can't be bothered right now to create a differentiating list.

I don't think she forgot to show them. I think there are levels and layers. "Practice flower fist / End up old age having nothing".


No, not everything is kai-he. That's marketing and secret keeping. If you want to accuse the major ima families of keeping secrets thats one thing, but assuming you would be justified, then when someone who has credentials comes and explains something to you, why do you respond with "flower fist..."? Taiji does not teach so many forms only for you to stand there and bounce people out without hardly moving. You have to move in order to apply technique. Since you're a fellow taoist I'll urge you to watch the video again with an open mind. Once you see it it cannot be unseen :)


Sink Qi into Dantian can have lots of different meanings
I made a thread some time ago about it
Depends on what layer of complexity of the process you want to look at

My eyes work well

Yes, everything is Kai He, Yin Yang - is distillation of all previous stuff
I don't want to accuse the families of fraud
I did
I am justified

I don't buy her credentials and skill until we touched
Same goes for everyone

I say again - forms are overrated
Reach the level where you can make your own
Yes, pre planned energy flow during form can be beneficial
Depends on if you want learn how to build tool or only use it

Over time, less and less movement required. Natural progression
Big movement = big vulnerabilities

I pass your urging onto someone else who feels like they want to take it
I'm good, thank you
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Re: Tai Chi Applications & Push Hands Principles — Aiping Cheng

Postby Appledog on Mon Mar 14, 2022 1:18 pm

Quigga wrote:Sink Qi into Dantian can have lots of different meanings
I made a thread some time ago about it
Depends on what layer of complexity of the process you want to look at


Thanks -- 'depends on what layer.. you want to look at' feels like I've been handed a menu. But you have a lot of posts. It will take some time to search through them all.

Quigga wrote:I pass your urging onto someone else who feels like they want to take it
I'm good, thank you


Well I can tell we aren't going to have a conversation today. That's a shame, it sounds like you know a lot.

Quigga wrote:I don't want to accuse the families of fraud
I did
I am justified


That you are, that you are. I wonder how, or if it is even possible, to break through that kind of veil and come away with the real material. In some ways it doesn't feel fair, but then again, I am not exactly appointed judge over what is counted as fair. I've come to accept my lot in this regard.
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Re: Tai Chi Applications & Push Hands Principles — Aiping Cheng

Postby Quigga on Mon Mar 14, 2022 1:28 pm

I talk openly with everyone when time is right
Time is becoming Al dente, so just right in time
Use search function
Note: don't know what I wrote there anymore 100%
Maybe have different view on some things already
But I try and keep open yet questioning mind to all

Thank you for compliment
Knowledge without application is useless so
I have to apply

Also
Smarter people than me said they only know - knowing nothing

PS no hate implied my man :-)
Lots of people here have great wisdom and training explanation in post history
When cooking, make sure to taste intermittently to get familiar with ingredients

Restaurant that has big menu and tries to please all tastes always fails
I like Gordan Ramsay, he has done a lot of good for people

Make smaller menu with food that has unquestionable quality, then the rest is matter of preference - steak over pork belly or chicken wing -
Then you have nothing to be ashamed for

Everybody has different soul food ;-);-);-)
Rule No 1 when cooking
Don't poison your self... Or guests
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Re: Tai Chi Applications & Push Hands Principles — Aiping Cheng

Postby Quigga on Mon Mar 14, 2022 1:32 pm

It's not right to forcefully open another person's hands
One way or another, that's called stealing

Better to make big buffet or banquet
But Master XyZ may think
What if no one Touch my food
At the end, lots of leftovers, I feel shame

Can not force people to be something they aren't
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Re: Tai Chi Applications & Push Hands Principles — Aiping Cheng

Postby origami_itto on Mon Mar 14, 2022 1:34 pm

You have to move in order to apply technique.


I don't think that is true.

At least, I don't think you have to move visibly to apply technique. The large circles to invisible circles progression is training the microadjustment of tension and intention to accomplish exactly that in the right contexts.
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