Appledog wrote:salcanzonieri wrote:I have been saying for years that Feng Zhiqiang is more than likely the originator of the Chen Silk Reeling exercises (combining material from Hu and Chen FaKe).
Im pretty sure this is common knowledge among Chen players, no? Prior to Feng's 18 silk reeling qigong set there wasn't anything similar. There are a lot of big questions to ask, such as if some similar types of movements were done in single move practice, or if, since silk reeling was a recognized jin, if there wasn't some way of delineating it in qigong form, but more or less Feng turned it into a science. There is also the story of Chen Fa-Ke doing silk reeling all the time as a form of meditation, but from what I can tell this is a story about his dedication and should not be used to infer there was a set of silk reeling exercises per-se. "Silk Reeling" is not really a secret anymore and there would be no reason to hide the existence of such a set among the old 5 sets or the 2 new sets.salcanzonieri wrote:BTW, I have close to 40 years experience in CMA and practice at least 4 hours or more a day. (...) (chart, comparisons)
Much of the differences found in Yang
Thank you for your dedication and insights, they are really valuable -- I'm sure I've said this before but it bears repeating. However it seems as if your message above was cut off. What were you going to say about the differences found in Yang? And yes FWIW, your idea about Yang modifying the Chen's art 'again' based on his previous studies is exactly what I think too based on a comparison of the sets. This idea just seems to spring into existence when you look at how the arts relate to each other. Esp. moves found in Yang's prior art that show up in Yang style but were not found in Chen style.salcanzonieri wrote:There is someone on YouTube that has step by step instruction from Master Ho in Taiwan for both Yi Lu and r Lu and Ho clearly shows all the material that I would consider "missing" or "lost" now with modern Chen. To me these transitional moves are essential to make the main form work better.
If you could find the link and send it to me I would be grateful. I've been looking up and saving interesting things like this for quite some time, please and thanks in advance if you can find it offhand!
YouTube channel link is posted separately in previous.
The sentences that were cut off in my post are now there.