Mok Kei Fai - Liuhebafa Dragon and Tiger Fight

[greytowhite]

I found this really interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FSE0odtLxE

[wayne hansen]

Nice channel thanks for the find
Do we have any info on the practitioner and the form

[nicklinjm]

Mok Kei Fai is one of the main Liuhe Bafa teachers here in HK, learnt from Chan Yik Yan I believe.

[greytowhite]

Mok Kei Fai is one of the main Liuhe Bafa teachers here in HK, learnt from Chan Yik Yan I believe.

That's correct. Nelson Ma (suckinlhbf on the board), Paul Roberts (drifitng on the board), and Grant Ching are the three names that come to mind for that branch.

[greytowhite]

Here are two other versions of the form.

Cliff Lok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uEeilo3aoY

Li Chun Sam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfi0QLM5el0

[greytowhite]

Nice channel thanks for the find
Do we have any info on the practitioner and the form

From the site linked below:

This form was created by Wu Yi Hui to teach to the students of Wang Xiang Zhai, to teach them not the styles foundations but the styles fighting techniques.

http://web.archive.org/web/201602170328 ... culum.html

[wayne hansen]

The 3 seem quite different but I don’t know the style

[suckinlhbf]

The 3 seem quite different but I don’t know the style

Li Chun Sum has a diversified martial art. He may not have enough time to put into LHBF.

Mok and Lok are students of Chan Yik Yan. Mok trains from the bottom to the top while Lok trains from the top to the bottom. Lok has a strong Lama background before he starts to train with Chan Yik Yan. Their approach and training are different so the presentation would not be the same.

Nelson Ma (suckinlhbf on the board), ......... that come to mind for that branch.

I have Shaolin jibengong training since I was a kid from family. It has a strong influence on me as my body is built from there. I have also learnt different styles other than LHBF. Even in LHBF, I have teachers from Chan Yik Yan lineage and Wan Tin Hung lineage. For that branch....., it is a question. My linkage to that branch is kind of weak.

[greytowhite]

Nelson Ma (suckinlhbf on the board), ......... that come to mind for that branch.

I have Shaolin jibengong training since I was a kid from family. It has a strong influence on me as my body is built from there. I have also learnt different styles other than LHBF. Even in LHBF, I have teachers from Chan Yik Yan lineage and Wan Tin Hung lineage. For that branch....., it is a question. My linkage to that branch is kind of weak.[/quote]

Thank you for clarifying.

[suckinlhbf]

I did spend a lot of time in researching LHBF. They always say it is the ultimate martial art. The mysteriousness and conservativeness in teaching induced my interest in it. I even tried and practiced it with an opposite approach to what the teacher said as I heard from one of them saying they would teach their students in an opposite way to protect the style. Even so, it is an intricate style.

[C.J.W.]

I did spend a lot of time in researching LHBF. They always say it is the ultimate martial art. The mysteriousness and conservativeness in teaching induced my interest in it. I even tried and practiced it with an opposite approach to what the teacher said as I heard from one of them saying they would teach their students in an opposite way to protect the style. Even so, it is an intricate style.

Are you familiar with this HK-based teacher Hui Kitwa (許傑華)? He seems to cross-train LHBH with Yiquan.

Here are some clips of him demonstrating LHBF with his Japanese student during an interview for a Japanese CMA magazine:






While I'm no expert in LHBF, it does seem that his applications and spear-based body mechanics are heavily influenced by Yiquan.

[suckinlhbf]

Hui learnt Yiquan from Han's brother, and LHBF from Lu Gui Yao. He teaches in Tsing Yi Hong Kong.

I have seen those moves in the clip during the class of a student of Wang XiangZhai. LHBF is also called water boxing - think about someone split water on us, how a person get drawn in the water, a tidal surges, and tsunami..... By the way, Hui is good.