"emptiness" in the video

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Re: "emptiness" in the video

Postby GrahamB on Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:17 am

You get a gold star for mentioning your Super Rare Style btw!

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Re: "emptiness" in the video

Postby everything on Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:48 am

Now I only feel motivated to post or comment for the Internet awards/points.

This is more fun than bashing the other Rare Styles.

Although that has intrinsic fun.
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Re: "emptiness" in the video

Postby windwalker on Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:50 am

Western Painting Vs. Traditional Chinese Painting: An excerpt from Chinese Landscape Painting by Lian Quan Zhen.
There are many differences between Chinese and Western painting other than mediums and ink. (Click here to Tweet this!)

Difference 1: Philosophy
Chinese artists use their imaginations to paint expressive interpretations of nature, staying true to the Taoist philosophy of achieving harmony with nature. Western artists rely on shapes, colors, lights, and shadows to convey a scene. Chinese painting uses the power of suggestion to capture the essence of objects, while traditional Western painting relies on the meticulous depiction of the object’s forms.

Chinese-symbols_Lian-Quan-Zhen
Chinese symbols evolved from artistic depictions of subjects. Here are six easily recognizable common characters, from top to bottom: people, mountains, water, clouds, trees and rocks.



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Difference 2: Perspective
Chinese artists imagine themselves flying over mountains like birds to observe landscapes, creating a moving perspective. The goal is to invite the viewer to wander over and through the landscape. In contrast, Western landscape paintings usually have one-, two-, or three-point perspectives that attempt to accurately depict a scene as it might be captured in a photograph.

Difference 3: Stroke Techniques
Chinese artists use simplified, minimal brushstrokes to delineate subjects as they see and feel them. Western artists render objects according to light source to depict an object’s surface, using more technical brushstrokes.

Difference 4: Leaving the Whites
Chinese landscape paintings usually have a lot of unpainted areas while Western landscapes sometimes do not leave whites. To Chinese painters, unpainted areas are as significant as painted ones. White space is valued to allow the painting to breathe and to enable the audience to use their imaginations to interpret the scene.

Difference 5: The Power of Suggestion
Chinese artists rely on the power of suggestion to depict night and rain scenes. A night or rain scene would be the same as a daytime scene, simply adding a moon or umbrella to distinguish the scene. Western artists attempt to capture the night scene as dark, using glittering lights to suggest stars, moons and night lights, and similarly, using water in action to depict rain.

Get your copy of Chinese Landscape Painting

https://www.artistsnetwork.com/art-medi ... 20subjects.
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Re: "emptiness" in the video

Postby origami_itto on Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:04 am

everything wrote:
origami_itto wrote:JFC, man.

I don't think you can really show emptiness in a video.

Maybe you can talk about it.

One aspect of emptiness is extraneous muscular tension that would impede the store/mobilize/release of jin, we must be empty of that. - Physical - Earth

Another is reducing the "noise floor", extraneous electrical activity in your nervous system, avoiding or mitigating the effects of adrenaline which are no good to anyone. - Mental - Man

Likewise preference to employ a particular technique would impede your ability to apply the CORRECT technique for the context, so we embrace emptiness and wuji in our attitude. - Spiritual - Heaven

I don't know how it is possible to demonstrate... perhaps with some lab equipment you could show the conscious control of the heart rate, for example, but emptiness itself... dunno


Great thoughts. Didn’t think of those.

I don’t know how people would show those either.

Think videos of Fedor bouts might come close. His Super Rare Style is quite calm. He clearly had technique preference, though, but it mostly worked.

But that wouldn’t be our Super Rare Style of interest.


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Re: "emptiness" in the video

Postby everything on Wed Apr 27, 2022 12:53 pm

windwalker wrote:
Western Painting Vs. Traditional Chinese Painting: An excerpt from Chinese Landscape Painting by Lian Quan Zhen.
There are many differences between Chinese and Western painting other than mediums and ink. (Click here to Tweet this!)

Difference 1: Philosophy
Chinese artists use their imaginations to paint expressive interpretations of nature, staying true to the Taoist philosophy of achieving harmony with nature. Western artists rely on shapes, colors, lights, and shadows to convey a scene. Chinese painting uses the power of suggestion to capture the essence of objects, while traditional Western painting relies on the meticulous depiction of the object’s forms.

Chinese-symbols_Lian-Quan-Zhen
Chinese symbols evolved from artistic depictions of subjects. Here are six easily recognizable common characters, from top to bottom: people, mountains, water, clouds, trees and rocks.



Image


Difference 2: Perspective
Chinese artists imagine themselves flying over mountains like birds to observe landscapes, creating a moving perspective. The goal is to invite the viewer to wander over and through the landscape. In contrast, Western landscape paintings usually have one-, two-, or three-point perspectives that attempt to accurately depict a scene as it might be captured in a photograph.

Difference 3: Stroke Techniques
Chinese artists use simplified, minimal brushstrokes to delineate subjects as they see and feel them. Western artists render objects according to light source to depict an object’s surface, using more technical brushstrokes.

Difference 4: Leaving the Whites
Chinese landscape paintings usually have a lot of unpainted areas while Western landscapes sometimes do not leave whites. To Chinese painters, unpainted areas are as significant as painted ones. White space is valued to allow the painting to breathe and to enable the audience to use their imaginations to interpret the scene.

Difference 5: The Power of Suggestion
Chinese artists rely on the power of suggestion to depict night and rain scenes. A night or rain scene would be the same as a daytime scene, simply adding a moon or umbrella to distinguish the scene. Western artists attempt to capture the night scene as dark, using glittering lights to suggest stars, moons and night lights, and similarly, using water in action to depict rain.

Get your copy of Chinese Landscape Painting

https://www.artistsnetwork.com/art-medi ... 20subjects.

Really interesting excerpt … and metaphor
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Re: "emptiness" in the video

Postby everything on Wed Apr 27, 2022 12:54 pm

origami_itto wrote:
everything wrote:
origami_itto wrote:JFC, man.

I don't think you can really show emptiness in a video.

Maybe you can talk about it.

One aspect of emptiness is extraneous muscular tension that would impede the store/mobilize/release of jin, we must be empty of that. - Physical - Earth

Another is reducing the "noise floor", extraneous electrical activity in your nervous system, avoiding or mitigating the effects of adrenaline which are no good to anyone. - Mental - Man

Likewise preference to employ a particular technique would impede your ability to apply the CORRECT technique for the context, so we embrace emptiness and wuji in our attitude. - Spiritual - Heaven

I don't know how it is possible to demonstrate... perhaps with some lab equipment you could show the conscious control of the heart rate, for example, but emptiness itself... dunno


Great thoughts. Didn’t think of those.

I don’t know how people would show those either.

Think videos of Fedor bouts might come close. His Super Rare Style is quite calm. He clearly had technique preference, though, but it mostly worked.

But that wouldn’t be our Super Rare Style of interest.


Yes, nobody is perfect, but the most dangerous person in the room is the calmest. On paper at least.


Really seemed that way in his heyday
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