Capoeira v. Muay Thai

[Tom]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IrA_gUEP7TM&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR2XsDTEfAgDXaooct4FmYaoeyjKoTgrtpwc1rvc6mzvW8dA2th7PvPP72M

[GrahamB]

This again? It's from a movie, it's not a real fight.

[Quigga]

Truth hurts lol No matter how much the lies and illusions may twist and turn, one smack across the face pierces all Mayas combined, leaving behind the fresh taste of morning dew

[Tom]

This again? It's from a movie, it's not a real fight.

You . . . you mean it's not "real"? Next you're going to be saying that THIS is a movie, not a real fight.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moReN9l2ap0

( . . . and of course you would be right).

With time and experience I've become less interested in the notion of martial "style" and much more in what constitutes effective movement in a combative setting--movement that provides effective timing, position, connected delivery of force, evasion, etc. "Real fights" captured from security-camera footage is one source of information, sport fights in the ring or cage is definitely another . . . and well-choreographed fight scenes from movies can be as well (or for that matter poorly-choreographed scenes like the preceding clip in the temple on fire ). Xu Xiaodong's greatest hits are a veritable font of effective v. ineffective movement.

The contrast between Capoeira and Muay Thai is an interesting study in martial movement--acrobatic momentum "v." maintaining a frame in movement for delivery of the "eight limbs."



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOug4AU-XZI




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtR21rSFAjk


Brazilian jiu-jitsu in some ways is an art of stopping movement (of the opponent). Capoeira and jiu-jitsu were fierce rivals in vale tudo through the 1950s in Brazil. Although jiu-jitsu dominated vale tudo encounters with capoeiristas, eventually some leading BJJ players began cross-training in capoeira for conditioning and variety.

https://www.flograppling.com/articles/5967465-the-other-brazilian-martial-art-capoeira-jiu-jitsus-love-hate-story

[GrahamB]

Tom, if I didn't have a job, and endless time and money, I would start Capoeira tomorrow. That stuff is so much fun. Not so sure about Muay Thai - that looks painful



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjAAC13al9s

[Tom]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjAAC13al9s