Capoeira v. Muay Thai

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Capoeira v. Muay Thai

Postby Tom on Sun May 08, 2022 8:52 pm

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Re: Capoeira v. Muay Thai

Postby GrahamB on Sun May 08, 2022 11:01 pm

This again? :) It's from a movie, it's not a real fight.
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Re: Capoeira v. Muay Thai

Postby Quigga on Sun May 08, 2022 11:15 pm

Truth hurts lol :D No matter how much the lies and illusions may twist and turn, one smack across the face pierces all Mayas combined, leaving behind the fresh taste of morning dew
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Re: Capoeira v. Muay Thai

Postby Tom on Mon May 09, 2022 9:52 am

GrahamB wrote:This again? :) It's from a movie, it's not a real fight.


You . . . you mean it's not "real"? Next you're going to be saying that THIS is a movie, not a real fight.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moReN9l2ap0

( . . . and of course you would be right). 8-)

With time and experience I've become less interested in the notion of martial "style" and much more in what constitutes effective movement in a combative setting--movement that provides effective timing, position, connected delivery of force, evasion, etc. "Real fights" captured from security-camera footage is one source of information, sport fights in the ring or cage is definitely another . . . and well-choreographed fight scenes from movies can be as well (or for that matter poorly-choreographed scenes like the preceding clip in the temple on fire ;D ). Xu Xiaodong's greatest hits are a veritable font of effective v. ineffective movement.

The contrast between Capoeira and Muay Thai is an interesting study in martial movement--acrobatic momentum "v." maintaining a frame in movement for delivery of the "eight limbs."



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOug4AU-XZI




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtR21rSFAjk


Brazilian jiu-jitsu in some ways is an art of stopping movement (of the opponent). Capoeira and jiu-jitsu were fierce rivals in vale tudo through the 1950s in Brazil. Although jiu-jitsu dominated vale tudo encounters with capoeiristas, eventually some leading BJJ players began cross-training in capoeira for conditioning and variety.

https://www.flograppling.com/articles/5967465-the-other-brazilian-martial-art-capoeira-jiu-jitsus-love-hate-story
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Re: Capoeira v. Muay Thai

Postby GrahamB on Mon May 09, 2022 11:29 am

Tom, if I didn't have a job, and endless time and money, I would start Capoeira tomorrow. That stuff is so much fun. Not so sure about Muay Thai - that looks painful ;D



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjAAC13al9s
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Re: Capoeira v. Muay Thai

Postby Tom on Mon May 09, 2022 1:57 pm

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