origami_itto wrote:Usually like her videos and conversation on Facebook,
If they knew their Taijiquan they never would have made a space restricted form, honestly. Should be able to do the whole 150 posture form with jailhouse steps in the space an ox takes up laying down.
edededed wrote:My opinion is - all the new forms are unnecessary and a waste of time.
If the traditional form is too long, just learn/teach the 1st section. There is always the choice to learn more after that, too.
Making all these new forms just adds fluff to a curriculum to drag it out more and more - great for commercial schools perhaps, but not for learners.
origami_itto wrote:edededed wrote:My opinion is - all the new forms are unnecessary and a waste of time.
If the traditional form is too long, just learn/teach the 1st section. There is always the choice to learn more after that, too.
Making all these new forms just adds fluff to a curriculum to drag it out more and more - great for commercial schools perhaps, but not for learners.
This is the right answer but I believe students are easier to keep by "completing" a shorter form, giving them a "thing" to work and practice vs one piece that is entirely sufficient but not a whole thing.
edededed wrote:origami_itto wrote:edededed wrote:My opinion is - all the new forms are unnecessary and a waste of time.
If the traditional form is too long, just learn/teach the 1st section. There is always the choice to learn more after that, too.
Making all these new forms just adds fluff to a curriculum to drag it out more and more - great for commercial schools perhaps, but not for learners.
This is the right answer but I believe students are easier to keep by "completing" a shorter form, giving them a "thing" to work and practice vs one piece that is entirely sufficient but not a whole thing.
What I don't like especially is that it just creates additional things to practice without meaning.
So, a student who learns taiji for several years will send up with an 8-step form, a 12-step form, a 24-step form, a 40-step form, etc ... and the traditional 108-step form. Time will be wasted practicing all the forms leading up to the traditional one.
Just let the students "complete" the long form by sections. You could even call them different forms. (Traditionally it was divided into 6 sections, anyway).
If one needs to cut even more, just cut into very small pieces and teach that first (e.g. just the qishi to peng lu ji an for example).
edededed wrote:My opinion is - all the new forms are unnecessary and a waste of time.
If the traditional form is too long, just learn/teach the 1st section. There is always the choice to learn more after that, too.
Making all these new forms just adds fluff to a curriculum to drag it out more and more - great for commercial schools perhaps, but not for learners.
wayne hansen wrote:I do a similar form which I keep for my advanced students which I think is of great value
I should upload it here but I won’t because it would please windy
Urs Krebs wrote:This Wu Bu Ba Fa routine is some of the most unnessecary things the Chinese Wushu Association ever produced (and they produced many unnecessary things). They somehow realized that they have a lack of Ji Grades in their Grading System (they start with Duan) and so they produced this BS to have something for the Ji Grades.
taiwandeutscher wrote:Urs Krebs wrote:This Wu Bu Ba Fa routine is some of the most unnessecary things the Chinese Wushu Association ever produced (and they produced many unnecessary things). They somehow realized that they have a lack of Ji Grades in their Grading System (they start with Duan) and so they produced this BS to have something for the Ji Grades.
Exactly! So most of those Duanwei holders are in fact just students, we had 7 Ji and 10 Duan, no one ever cared, except the ministry of education, lmao.
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