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"capoeira fighter"

Postby everything on Wed Sep 14, 2022 7:56 pm

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Re: "capoeira fighter"

Postby wayne hansen on Thu Sep 15, 2022 4:00 am

I enjoyed that
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Re: "capoeira fighter"

Postby Bao on Thu Sep 15, 2022 4:43 am

He is unpredictable, creative, having fun. Yeah, I enjoyed that as well.
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Re: "capoeira fighter"

Postby GrahamB on Thu Sep 15, 2022 5:13 am

But is it internal?
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Postby Urs Krebs on Thu Sep 15, 2022 7:12 am

GrahamB wrote:But is it internal?


It can't be internal, becaus it's fun ;)
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Re: "capoeira fighter"

Postby everything on Thu Sep 15, 2022 10:09 am

Lol

Was hoping he won all the time, but kinda more cool to see how he lost and tried to adapt
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Re: "capoeira fighter"

Postby Dmitri on Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:47 pm

Funny I just watched that same video last night.

Yeah I sparred with a lot of different stylists in the years past, but the two capoeira guys (from the same, apparently very good, school) were by far the hardest ones to deal with. Such a completely unnatural way to fight and move, your brain has no idea how to deal with it unless you train like that (or against that) specifically. Kind of like BJJ, in that sense -- one of the older Gracies compared it to a world-class fighter (who can barely swim) going against a world-class water polo guy (who can barely fight) -- in the water.
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Re: "capoeira fighter"

Postby everything on Thu Sep 15, 2022 4:53 pm

seemed like some of the guys staying compact did well
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Re: "capoeira fighter"

Postby yeniseri on Fri Sep 16, 2022 2:45 pm

Capoeira fighters are tough but in MMA one needs to be well rounded along with the physical conditioning.
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Re: "capoeira fighter"

Postby vadaga on Thu Sep 29, 2022 3:38 am

Dmitri wrote:Funny I just watched that same video last night.

Yeah I sparred with a lot of different stylists in the years past, but the two capoeira guys (from the same, apparently very good, school) were by far the hardest ones to deal with. Such a completely unnatural way to fight and move, your brain has no idea how to deal with it unless you train like that (or against that) specifically. Kind of like BJJ, in that sense -- one of the older Gracies compared it to a world-class fighter (who can barely swim) going against a world-class water polo guy (who can barely fight) -- in the water.


water polo is fairly violent fwiw... combining wrestling, high workrate due to swimming for movement, and always gasping for oxygen due to being under the water... i remember in HS I was told that the players would clamp sharp objects between the toes and cut players on opposing teams under water where the ref was unable to see it etc. - no high speed collisions though
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Re: "capoeira fighter"

Postby wayne hansen on Thu Sep 29, 2022 4:30 am

Must be a rough old water polo school where you lived
I played with Olympic level players without a shank in site
It is a rough sport though
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Re: "capoeira fighter"

Postby Steve James on Thu Sep 29, 2022 5:22 am

wayne hansen wrote:Must be a rough old water polo school where you lived
I played with Olympic level players without a shank in site
It is a rough sport though


OTT, but have you ever tried torpedo?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SueWj8ELRoQ
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Re: "capoeira fighter"

Postby wayne hansen on Thu Sep 29, 2022 12:56 pm

I haven’t tried that one but my 86 year old student Ivo played it on a regular basis
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Re: "capoeira fighter"

Postby everything on Thu Sep 29, 2022 3:05 pm

water polo looks like the most difficult sport in the world to me. I'm already bad at treading water. how the heck do they kind of "leap" out of the water. let alone do tactical things
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Re: "capoeira fighter"

Postby Dmitri on Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:00 pm

vadaga wrote:i remember in HS I was told that the players would clamp sharp objects between the toes and cut players on opposing teams under water where the ref was unable to see it etc. - no high speed collisions though

:o damn...

The point, of course, was that on the ground (out of water) that hypothetical fight would surely not be ending well for the (unquestionably tough) water polo guy
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