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Xingyi Quan - Post Standing Timer - Follow-Along San Ti Shi

Postby wushutiger on Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:34 pm

Xingyi Quan - Post Standing Timer - Follow-Along San Ti Shi (5-min x 2)

Post Standing or Zhan Zhuang is a fundamental practice within Xingyi Quan and the most important post standing practice is San Ti Shi (Trinity Posture). This is a timer video that you can follow to practice your daily San Ti Shi. The timer is set to 5-minutes on each side.


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Re: Xingyi Quan - Post Standing Timer - Follow-Along San Ti Shi

Postby Bao on Thu Oct 13, 2022 7:34 am

You can't learn santishi from videos. You really need a good teacher to correct your stance and alignment.
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Re: Xingyi Quan - Post Standing Timer - Follow-Along San Ti Shi

Postby wushutiger on Thu Oct 13, 2022 7:37 am

You can't learn santishi from videos. You really need a good teacher to correct your stance and alignment.


This isn't an instructional video, its a follow along timer for people who practice san ti shi.
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Re: Xingyi Quan - Post Standing Timer - Follow-Along San Ti Shi

Postby Bao on Thu Oct 13, 2022 9:14 am

wushutiger wrote:This isn't an instructional video, its a follow along timer for people who practice san ti shi.


There are many different traditions and philosophies around Santishi. The video is useless unless you study the exact same branch and lineage.
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Re: Xingyi Quan - Post Standing Timer - Follow-Along San Ti Shi

Postby GrahamB on Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:29 am

Of course it’s not useless. Stop being an idiot.

Practice Santshi however you like along with the video and change sides when he does then stop when he does. Simple.
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Postby GrahamB on Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:30 am

I think you need to look up the definition of “timer”
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Re: Xingyi Quan - Post Standing Timer - Follow-Along San Ti Shi

Postby wayne hansen on Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:10 pm

It is worse than useless if you do it incorrectly
Bao is right you need hands on correction
To use a video seems unnecessary since they invented the clock
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Re: Xingyi Quan - Post Standing Timer - Follow-Along San Ti Shi

Postby Bob on Thu Oct 13, 2022 1:17 pm

Well, I guess this would be a primer for the san ti shi timer clip - seems like a good place to start.

If determined you can do his on-line instruction and visit Byron when ya getta chance to go to Beijing.

Xingyi Quan Ten Minute Primer - San Ti Shi Post Standing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InxyCGCEn4g

This is the first video in a series of Xingyi Quan Ten Minute Primer Videos. The aim of these videos will be to introduce the key points regarding training methods and basic fundamental aspects of Xingyi Quan that anyone can follow, whether they are new to the art or practice it already.

In this video, I cover San Ti Shi Post Standing (Zhan Zhuang) which is Xingyi Quan's base and required fundamental practice. The key points covered in this primer video will enable you to begin your Xingyi Quan practice, or if you are an existing practitioner, to refine its key technical details.

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Postby Bhassler on Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:16 pm

Ah, so you have the ten minute primer to prepare for the ten minute timer.

People seem really upset about this. The different views have become quite a stand-off...
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Re: Xingyi Quan - Post Standing Timer - Follow-Along San Ti Shi

Postby Bao on Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:34 pm

Bhassler wrote: The different views have become quite a stand-off...


I agree with Wayne: "It is worse than useless if you do it incorrectly"

The basic Sun style santishi I practice (well, used to practice to be honest) is a little different from the one in the video. It is narrower, but the alignment makes it extremely demanding and painful for beginners. There is "good" pain and there is bad pain. The right pain will strengthen the root. Wrong pain will damage the knees. Sometimes it can be hard for the practitioner to understand what is correct pain and what is wrong. So you need a good teacher that understand the exact alignment and various mistakes you can do.

Also, we count breath cycles. One cycle is twelve breaths. How many cycles you should do before changing side depends on how long time you have practiced.

So you see, the philosophies on alignment, how to stand, how long time, and also how and what to focus on etc. are all different in different Xingyi traditions. If your own standard is to stand five minutes, then maybe you could enjoy this as a virtual training partner.

However, if I would want a virtual training partner, I would probably choose a yoga girl instead.

So nothing wrong with the video if this is the type of xingyi and santishi you practice.
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Re: Xingyi Quan - Post Standing Timer - Follow-Along San Ti Shi

Postby wushutiger on Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:52 pm

It is worse than useless if you do it incorrectly


This is the case with anything.

The space between the two feet here is one shin bone, which is quite standard and common across different lineages. Breath cycles are one method indeed, but people's breath duration differs, which is also a result of how long you have trained for.

This video is as stated, a basic timer that someone can follow along for some basic training, it isn't an instructional as stated. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Re: Xingyi Quan - Post Standing Timer - Follow-Along San Ti Shi

Postby wayne hansen on Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:56 pm

I wasn’t commenting on your posture but Graham’s statement
Don't put power into the form let it naturally arise from the form
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Re: Xingyi Quan - Post Standing Timer - Follow-Along San Ti Shi

Postby GrahamB on Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:34 pm

Who would have thought that a video of a man standing still could disturb the internal balance of so many.
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Re: Xingyi Quan - Post Standing Timer - Follow-Along San Ti Shi

Postby yeniseri on Sat Oct 15, 2022 8:42 am

GrahamB wrote:Who would have thought that a video of a man standing still could disturb the internal balance of so many.


More green tea is in order!
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