wayne hansen wrote:What u say CMC is doing here is directly trained in how push is done in his form
Not many do it
It is a result of folding and trained mainly in the solo san shou forms
Exercises I have done daily for nearly 50 years have recently produced a new level of elastic energy
I have just passed it on to my senior student and he can see it manifest
I don’t know what value it is I don’t know
Where it came from I don’t know but it is evident and feels great
By the way I have always liked Derecks stuff
robert wrote:Someone pointed this out recently. Watch around 0:29, ZMQ uses wardoff to push someone and as ZMQ gets closer to the other guy his right arm compresses. When the guy is off the ground and offers less resistance ZMQ's right arm expands. You can slow it down to half speed and it's pretty clear.
You can see a certain level of elasticity, but there is also a skill to be able to use it.
marvin8 wrote:robert wrote:The problem is that some people didn't get the idea of jin. Many still don't. How can you be loose and relaxed, but not collapse?
ZMQ pushing. I like the push at 0:30, ZMQ uses ward off to push the guy and his arm doesn't collapse, it's a good example of jin. It's also clear that he's not using his "shoulder" (deltoid) to push, his upper arm is extended when he starts to push. The same thing is shown at 3:06 where he pushes Robert Smith, and again at 3:09.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSYPOhSgiis
ZMQ also shows strength against strength (jin).
Yes. At 3:06, ZMQ:
1. presses (ji) causing Gibbs to roll back (lu) 2. as Gibbs shifts his weight to the front foot and attacks, ZMQ adheres by bending his elbow 3. while bending his elbow, ZMQ slightly rolls back, then shifts his weight to the front foot (shortens lu) and issues push with forearm (ward off/Ti Fang RSF thread), attached->resistance->withdraw->acceleration (li?).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSYPOhSgiist=3m6s
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