the rum soaked fist: internal martial arts forum

wayne hansen wrote:https://youtu.be/SN8-Wr5mHbQ

wayne hansen wrote:https://youtu.be/SN8-Wr5mHbQ

windwalker wrote:

wayne hansen wrote:https://youtu.be/SN8-Wr5mHbQ

The teacher seems a little stiff...Would be interesting to know his linage.
Wonder if he learned in Korea or Taiwan...

Lee Chan wrote:About me
The master, Lee Chan

started to learn Taekwondo as he was interested in martial art from childhood and changed into the Chinese martial arts at the age of 18. He learned and practiced Shaolinquan and Tanglangquan from the teachers of Lee Deok-Gang, Kang Yong-Il, Choi Young-Geun and Song Kee-Cheon. He was indulged into qigong and Tai Chi Chuan from 1978 and self-trained the Yang Style Tai Chi Chuan by acquiring Yang Cheng Fu’s [Illustrative drawings on how to use Tai Chi Chuan] and from his martial art associate, Choi In-Kook. Later on, he entered into Tai Chi Chuan formally inspired by Master Rui Pin San’s praise on Tai Chi Chuan and recommendation of inherited training by Master Kang Yong-Il.

He opened the Jung Moo Martial Art Studio in 1980. He learned from Grand Master Chu Hong Ping who was the best disciple of Cheng Man-Ching and Master Tan Ching Ngee privately and changed his studio’s name from the Jung Moo Martial Art Studio to Lee Chan Taichichuan Center.

wayne hansen wrote:Can you point out one that does that

Bhassler wrote:In my experience, the "bouncing people out" sort of thing as seen around 0:55 doesn't carry over very well to fighting, or even to push hands against an athletic opponent who just wants to shove you around and isn't trying to tai chi you to death. In a similar vein, the applications are all based on unrealistic attacks, and as shown likely wouldn't carry over to a more fighty context. That said, all that stuff can have a place in teaching and learning, and by itself isn't necessarily and indication of "bad" taiji, or whatever. So my answer to "what do you think" would be that it all looks pretty common and not particularly interesting. I get a lot more excited seeing the stuff that is designed to actually build skills rather than just demo them.

origami_itto wrote:

Bhassler wrote:In my experience, the "bouncing people out" sort of thing as seen around 0:55 doesn't carry over very well to fighting, or even to push hands against an athletic opponent who just wants to shove you around and isn't trying to tai chi you to death. In a similar vein, the applications are all based on unrealistic attacks, and as shown likely wouldn't carry over to a more fighty context. That said, all that stuff can have a place in teaching and learning, and by itself isn't necessarily and indication of "bad" taiji, or whatever. So my answer to "what do you think" would be that it all looks pretty common and not particularly interesting. I get a lot more excited seeing the stuff that is designed to actually build skills rather than just demo them.

The "bouncing out" is really just being nice. If you aim it a little differently the same amount of energy goes into the body and stays there instead of lifting the mass off the ground.

Bhassler wrote:I'm talking specifically about the shown applications where I push on your arms, and you launch me out by a minimal movement. The energy can't go into my body because there's no body contact. The dramatic outcome relies upon me committing 100% of my intent to attacking your arms with my arms. I've trained with a number of skilled folks who were really good at that sort of thing, and I've seen a number of them struggle when opponents were no longer attacking their arms from a stationary position. I've been thrown out in not-nice fashions many times, though, so I know what that's about.