Trip wrote:It is a good Taiji exercise
But, there are several fundamental alignment problems
with the way she performs hold the ball.
What style of Taiji did you learn
this exercise for?
origami_itto wrote:It's a good exercise for anyone, really, when done properly. Probably least useful for a beginner, they aren't doing anything but waving their arms around.
Bao wrote:Why so stressed? At that pace, do you actually have time to feel what you are doing?
Is there anything of value involved, as trying to feel the alignment (zhong ding), working with the gravity (and not against it) or internal stretching?
Appledog wrote:I don't understand. Who is stressed? You mean the beginner in the video? She doesn't look stressed to me.
Appledog wrote:origami_itto wrote:It's a good exercise for anyone, really, when done properly. Probably least useful for a beginner, they aren't doing anything but waving their arms around.
It's part of a progression. I just like to have a short drill for any part of the form so we can drill and review any part of the set. In terms of beginner exercises, since it represents a part of the opening sequence I think it's perfect for a beginner. I often find that students don't really remember a move unless they drill it repeatedly. YMMV, some people get things right away, some need more drills.
idk about how low,
Bao wrote:Appledog wrote:I don't understand. Who is stressed? You mean the beginner in the video? She doesn't look stressed to me.
She does it too fast, she has no time to feel what she is doing.
Bao wrote:But I got it, you made it up and it's just "qigong" with no kind of purpose at all, except for actually doing the exercise. Then I have no idea why you call it "Tai Chi exercise," but ok, good luck.
suckinlhbf wrote:I am old school, still like the old way - low horse stance for don't know how long.
direct and gentle
Appledog wrote:
This is a good exercise to give beginners for their first few months of practice. It is easy to do and can encourage good habits in the morning.
origami_itto wrote:Appledog wrote:origami_itto wrote:It's a good exercise for anyone, really, when done properly. Probably least useful for a beginner, they aren't doing anything but waving their arms around.
It's part of a progression. I just like to have a short drill for any part of the form so we can drill and review any part of the set. In terms of beginner exercises, since it represents a part of the opening sequence I think it's perfect for a beginner. I often find that students don't really remember a move unless they drill it repeatedly. YMMV, some people get things right away, some need more drills.
How does this change to become more useful?
everything wrote:idk about how low, but agree hold for a long time. move very slowly. it seems counterintuitive. what itto said about "beginner exercise" not being too useful for beginners who are just learning to wave arms. "secrets" are given out on day one, but nobody can comprehend them.
suckinlhbf wrote:direct and gentle
The "gentle" for a 18 years old boy is not quite the same for a 81 years old senior. The boy can do a lot more in his own "direct and gentle" way. We won't believe what the young people can do when they are being pushed to the edge. They get tons of potential and can do a lot with their flexibilities and physical abilities. It is the quality of movements that matters.
charles wrote:Appledog wrote:
This is a good exercise to give beginners for their first few months of practice. It is easy to do and can encourage good habits in the morning.
There are many, many, many things that one can do with one’s time. I’m of the opinion, that if one wants to accomplish something specific, one ought to choose activities that lead one towards achieving those specific goals. In the case of physical activities, one ought to choose activities that lead to specific desired skills and abilities. If one is going to, for example, perform a motion repeatedly, performing that motion should lead to the desired skills and abilities. If not, one is simply repeating motions for the sake of repeating motions. Ideally, the exercise should be more effective/more efficient at achieving those skills and abilities than other possible exercises. Otherwise, one ought to do that more effective exercise instead of this one.
charles wrote:That said, towards what specific goals does the exercise that you “created” lead? The description that accompanies the video states, “This is a beginners exercise which teaches three fundamental concepts of Tai Chi: Transfer the weight, Balance, and Relaxation.” For any able-bodied person, how does this teach/reinforce transfer of weight better than, say, just walking? What is “special” about THIS exercise that makes it better suited to learning about the transfer of weight? Ditto for balance. What about this exercise explicitly teaches or reinforces relaxation?
I don't understand what you are talking about
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