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Wave movement

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:46 am
by GrahamB
Really liked this clip - there's a shoulder strike (0.23) in here and a cai (grasp/pluck) (0.11) that I would struggle to differentiate from Tai Chi, although there is no concept of a dantien in Systema. Thoughts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8evhGDNSb9E


Re: Wave movement

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:55 am
by Bob
I struggle to see a major difference between some of the pigua/baji I once learned - especially some of the punches and slapping

Re: Wave movement

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:56 am
by everything
liked it

Re: Wave movement

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:02 pm
by wayne hansen
I’m always unconvinced by these demos
Have any of the students of this stuff ever applied it in open combat
I would imagine they would be quite open to it
Thé remind me of Peter Ralston and his stuff
The title wave action got me in
Broken wave action is quite refined in Fu style
It is one of the things I took away from Fu and still practice on a daily basis
Unfortunately it was not that

Re: Wave movement

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 1:21 pm
by RobP3
wayne hansen wrote:I’m always unconvinced by these demos
Have any of the students of this stuff ever applied it in open combatat


Yes

Re: Wave movement

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 1:22 pm
by RobP3
GrahamB wrote:Really liked this clip - there's a shoulder strike (0.23) in here and a cai (grasp/pluck) (0.11) that I would struggle to differentiate from Tai Chi, although there is no concept of a dantien in Systema. Thoughts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8evhGDNSb9E



The wave in this method can be generated from any part of the body, most typically the shoulder

Re: Wave movement

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 1:25 pm
by wayne hansen
Any examples

Re: Wave movement

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 1:42 pm
by origami_itto
RobP3 wrote:The wave in this method can be generated from any part of the body, most typically the shoulder

I favor the calf.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/aMYhjacXZnY

Just shot this quick example out back with the new heavy bag.

https://youtube.com/shorts/3hl_itIG3hs

Re: Wave movement

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 1:42 pm
by RobP3
wayne hansen wrote:Any examples


In terms of actual hands on, door work, road rage, knife robbery, domestic violence, general night club/bar stuff, LEO, oh and a football match