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Good advice or bad?

PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 1:14 am
by Appledog
This surprised me.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/2455691041281257

The 70% rule is something he mentions quite frequently, ex.



He has a number of videos on the topic. Now, in general, I would say, he is correct.

But, is it really true i.e. if you have been around for a while you have surely seen ways to 'go 150%', if you needed to.

Do you think there is room for 'going 150%' in Tai Chi, or is a 70% rules fundamental to Tai Chi as a whole?

Re: Good advice or bad?

PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 1:41 am
by GrahamB
How do you do qigong at 150%???? That sounds ridiculous...

I guess the real question is - what do you mean? You need to be more specific for this to make any sense. Give an example.

Re: Good advice or bad?

PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:05 am
by origami_itto
Totally.

Look at modern training guidance, go 80% every day instead of training to exhaustion 2-3 days a week.

You reduce injury, improve form, reduce recovery time, reduce pain, reduce stiffness in the muscles.

The idea is you can improve AND still be functional every day. Good stuff.

Going 150% is for life and death situations.

For push hands, I'm trying to go 5%.

Re: Good advice or bad?

PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 8:11 am
by everything
for sure. it's a rule for all your training and probably your life. doing this with kettlebell "simple and sinister" routine as well. it's a "practice" and not a "workout" and "anti-glycolytic" and so on and so on.

humans need some very specific amount of stress, not too little, not too much. goldilocks amount.

Re: Good advice or bad?

PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 3:35 pm
by Appledog
origami_itto wrote:Totally.

Look at modern training guidance, go 80% every day instead of training to exhaustion 2-3 days a week.

You reduce injury, improve form, reduce recovery time, reduce pain, reduce stiffness in the muscles.

The idea is you can improve AND still be functional every day. Good stuff.

Going 150% is for life and death situations.

For push hands, I'm trying to go 5%.


No, he's talking about range of motion. ex..


Re: Good advice or bad?

PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 3:41 pm
by origami_itto
Appledog wrote:
origami_itto wrote:Totally.

Look at modern training guidance, go 80% every day instead of training to exhaustion 2-3 days a week.

You reduce injury, improve form, reduce recovery time, reduce pain, reduce stiffness in the muscles.

The idea is you can improve AND still be functional every day. Good stuff.

Going 150% is for life and death situations.

For push hands, I'm trying to go 5%.


No, he's talking about range of motion. ex..



Same thing applies to flexibility and mobility, you go gradually.

I say this as somebody who could not reach past their knees when I started Taijiquan. Now I can slap the ground with straight legs, throw chin-high heel kicks, you don't need to push to extremes. It leads to imbalance and injury.

Re: Good advice or bad?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 4:44 am
by vadaga
Some thoughts:
Consistency is more important than intensity
It is important to train sometimes to be able to do max efforts, but not all training should be done at max effort
when I train for my bike racing, climbing and running, I will do some sort of intervals, but a lot of the training is done more at the baseload effort, why would MA be different

Laoshi said that when we practice form we should make the motions big (the word he used was 'kaizhang'- open)and clear but that when we are using them they may be more compacted

Re: Good advice or bad?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:35 am
by wayne hansen
Talks a good talk
Yet to see him do anything that impresses me

Re: Good advice or bad?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 12:04 pm
by origami_itto
wayne hansen wrote:Talks a good talk
Yet to see him do anything that impresses me

I know EXACTLY what you mean.

Re: Good advice or bad?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 2:04 pm
by Bao
wayne hansen wrote:Talks a good talk
Yet to see him do anything that impresses me


Thinks he talks too much. Not a lot of value, but a lot of words. ...And I am not sure he is always honest..
Agree about the second.