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Re: Yiquan wooden pole

Postby Strange on Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:21 am

john,
for the most part in cma, development of power is not separated from the technique itself
but i do understand how it can be a more systematic and scientific method of training
ahh power from the mingmen... itsss... very nice :)
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Re: Yiquan wooden pole

Postby jjy5016 on Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:35 am

I agree. In most cases power development is not separated from technique. But in yiquan we are not training specific techniques as much as we are just methods.

The long pole drills could be done without the long pole and could be adapted to empty hand applications but then we wouldn't get the added benefit of extending the yi to the end of the pole ;)

Wang Xiang Zhai said that it took about 10 years to learn how to issue power from the ming men.

Know of any shortcuts?
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Re: Yiquan wooden pole

Postby Strange on Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:53 am

other than zz, i do not know of any "short" cuts heh heh
perhaps more friction steps will help
but i suspect i am making a "mindtrap" for you cos our manual say that we are not expected/force it to happen; it is to be attained naturally.
but i think you do not need to worry - from what you tell me you are on the most correct and natural path.

en... what i think is like this:
for beginners doing zz, some move, sway, twitch, or somethhing
as they become more comfortable they move less and less
once they stop, the movement become on the inside - the intent goes inside
if you can do this and "hu ying" (connect) with the outside imagination
i think you can feel zhen jing
if you train and go into more refinement then perhaps.... ming men

i myself was fortunate to do it once; i think the moon and planets alignment helped me along that morning.
i was not able to replicate it after :)
Last edited by Strange on Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:05 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Yiquan wooden pole

Postby jjy5016 on Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:19 am

No magic pill? Damn!!!


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Re: Yiquan wooden pole

Postby Strange on Fri Feb 27, 2009 5:27 pm

heh, thats
"strange brew, MOVING what's inside of you"

you should ask JB (dai zhi qiang), i heard that dai family has chinese herbal medicine formula that once taken can open up meridiens to achieve major/minor qi energy orbit.
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Re: Yiquan wooden pole

Postby Overlord on Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:14 am

Now, I want to know that!

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