http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohnxoiOy ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=096-K1NZ ... re=related
sorry, dunno how to imbed videos... but is it just me or does yagyu shingan ryu look somewhat like bajiquan in application? they also use that "heart gouging elbow" move.
i'm pretty sure they have nothing to do with each other, just found it curious.