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Wang Xian's second son tournament fight

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:53 am
by C.J.Wang
Found this on youtube.

http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=5nTG-T-uF6k&feature=related

What do you guys think?

Re: Wang Xian's second son tournament fight

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:56 am
by middleway
the bigger stronger guy wins the day.

Some nice things in there though.

Cheers
Chris

Re: Wang Xian's second son tournament fight

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:47 am
by gryphonz
Browsing through the topics, my brain somehow managed to see "Wang Xiang Zhai's 2nd son fighting" :P

Re: Wang Xian's second son tournament fight

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:58 am
by AllanF
If you can find the final it is a better clip. Wang Xian's son walks the tournement but in the final he demonstartes some very nice techniques.

Re: Wang Xian's second son tournament fight

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:08 pm
by ashe
i'm not sure how to feel about these wu lin da hui...

Re: Wang Xian's second son tournament fight

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:19 pm
by Areios
:-\ I hate this stuff. protectors all the way, no punch to head. It's a paradise for SC.

Re: Wang Xian's second son tournament fight

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:27 pm
by Muad'dib
What a bad time for Jwang to quit the board.

Re: Wang Xian's second son tournament fight

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:33 pm
by iwalkthecircle
C.J.Wang wrote:Found this on youtube.

http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=5nTG-T-uF6k&feature=related

What do you guys think?



chenTCC matchUp that looks like a SC match.


maybe im not internal enough to see his chi.

Re: Wang Xian's second son tournament fight

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:25 pm
by Formosa Neijia
C.J.Wang wrote:Found this on youtube.

http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=5nTG-T-uF6k&feature=related

What do you guys think?


As has already been pointed out numerous times in numerous threads, these wulin dahui fights are fixed. The competitors train together for a month before the match to get the timing right on the throws, etc. They do this so that moves will look more sensational.

Dave C.

Re: Wang Xian's second son tournament fight

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:17 pm
by C.J.Wang
Hmm........interesting.

If the fights were fixed with moves choreographed in advance, wouldn't it make sense if there were more "Taiji-ish" techniques rather than Judo/SC type grabbing and slamming.

Re: Wang Xian's second son tournament fight

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:37 pm
by Formosa Neijia
C.J.Wang wrote:Hmm........interesting.

If the fights were fixed with moves choreographed in advance, wouldn't it make sense if there were more "Taiji-ish" techniques rather than Judo/SC type grabbing and slamming.


Tomas, the EF poster who has been training Yinfu BGZ for a long time in Beijing, already posted that his kungfu brothers were on the show. They trained as I said in the earlier post. So it's fixed.

Even choreographed taiji likely wouldn't be obvious enough for the masses -- which this show is aimed at. The big throws, etc. are there for them to see.

Dave C.

Re: Wang Xian's second son tournament fight

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:29 am
by Areios
so it's like WWE, but with mostly SC and without the WWE feeling. But instead it has the CMA is the best and the masters are to good to compete in a real fight feeling :) But i hope they get some good $$ for it.

Re: Wang Xian's second son tournament fight

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:37 am
by Ian
"CMA is the best"

Let's not forget those sanda vs muay thai / PRC sanda vs american sanda / shaolin vs tkd... er... fights!

Re: Wang Xian's second son tournament fight

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:13 am
by Muad'dib
If the fights were fixed with moves choreographed in advance, wouldn't it make sense if there were more "Taiji-ish" techniques rather than Judo/SC type grabbing and slamming.



one could argue that being from chen family village and all, they have a better grasp on what is "taiji-ish" then we do. After all, despite obvious strikes, most of what I know about taiji is based in throwing and locks.

Re: Wang Xian's second son tournament fight

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:01 am
by C.J.Wang
Formosa Neijia wrote:
C.J.Wang wrote:Hmm........interesting.

If the fights were fixed with moves choreographed in advance, wouldn't it make sense if there were more "Taiji-ish" techniques rather than Judo/SC type grabbing and slamming.


Tomas, the EF poster who has been training Yinfu BGZ for a long time in Beijing, already posted that his kungfu brothers were on the show. They trained as I said in the earlier post. So it's fixed.

Even choreographed taiji likely wouldn't be obvious enough for the masses -- which this show is aimed at. The big throws, etc. are there for them to see.

Dave C.


Yeah I see your point.

Maybe next time they could have a Taiji guy snap his finger in front of the opponent and make him hop 20 steps backward off the platform while spewing blood all over the place.

That'd be what I call a real crowd pleaser. ;D