Pencak Silat from Madura island

[Dr.Rob]

http://martialmatrix.ning.com/video/pencak-silat-from-madura

[Andy_S]

Interesting style and an elegant demo.

The Madurese are considered a hard bunch, but are not much liked around Indo:they are often hired as bodyguards and enforcers. Their island is a barren place, so many Madurese become transmigrasi (ie migrants to other islands, where they can find themselves in conflict with ocals).

The Madurese were the ones who went to war with the Ibans and Dyaks in Kalimantan (Indonesian Borneo) after the fall of Suharto, when Indonesia plunged into chaos in the mid 1990s. Fights and riots got out of hand; the end result was the Christian Ibans and Dyaks launched war parties and went headhunting among the Muslim Madurese. Some pretty horrific massacres ensued. Most of the Madurese fled Borneo, and a number were eaten. (A colleague of mine reporting the situation was offered a human kebab by a roadside; the guys offering this delicacy were not all there, and my pal admitted it was a very scary situation. He very politely declined.)

The chap here is wearing the common Madurese striped shirt, though why he is stuffing leaves down it I have no idea. He looks skillful with that odd spear he is using, but is not using the iconic Madurese weapon, a short-handled sickle.

[Buddy]

Figures this comes from O'ong.

[Dr.Rob]

Explain his history pls. I just found his name in reference to an article I downloaded ( 315pgs) Muslims in Global Socities. May 2009...He was mentioned in the Prologue in reference to research he did in 2002.

D.S. Farrer
Shadows of the Prophet
Martial Arts and Sufi Mysticism

[Buddy]

I knew him from a long ago Silat list.

[bigphatwong]

Interesting. I had some friends growing up in Holland who were from that island. Their family style of Pukulan is very unique and still practiced there today.

P.S. Buddy-- Pak Vic sends his regards.

[Buddy]

Hmmm...... we parted on less than good terms and I never knew Pak for his forgiveness.

[Tiga Pukul]

Interesting. I had some friends growing up in Holland who were from that island. Their family style of Pukulan is very unique and still practiced there today.

P.S. Buddy-- Pak Vic sends his regards.

I hope you are not meaning Pukulan Madura in Holland? This style does NOT come from Madura, to be clear, but the teacher of the main teacher in Holland comes from Madura... however it's Pukulan is known for it's hard contact and fierceness.

Andy_S: The big weapon which is used is a known weapon in Madura. The favorite weapon from Madura you probably mean is the Celurit...a curvy sickle type of weapon. Very nasty.

[bigphatwong]

I hope you are not meaning Pukulan Madura in Holland? This style does NOT come from Madura, to be clear, but the teacher of the main teacher in Holland comes from Madura... however it's Pukulan is known for it's hard contact and fierceness.

Right, Pukulan Madura. The style taught by the Flohr family in Breda. That's what you practice, isn't it?

Anyway, what I've seen was limited to an informal backyard demo, but by all accounts Pa Flohr was very fast even at his advanced age, so the training must produce good results.

cheers