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Bagua Weapons

Postby Bob on Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:55 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40aN0zHg ... re=related

Various Bagua Weapons - Swords, Hooks, etc.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk8smv8N ... re=related

Modern Baguazhang sample:
Water Dragon Baguazhang ... connected body, silk reeling, large sabre practice. Contact me if you would like to annotate the clip with your comments in the half-speed section.

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Re: Bagua Weapons

Postby Bob on Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:00 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNVrE5yG ... re=channel



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x0DKET4 ... re=channel

Modern Baguazhang sample:
Water Dragon Baguazhang ... Circle walking practice at one second step timing with Mobility Wand (pool noodle) training as a precursor to metal weapons training. Contact me if you would like to annotate the clip with your comments.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yZX3QyE ... re=channel



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bL1eLTA ... re=channel

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Re: Bagua Weapons

Postby Hakkesho on Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:30 pm

Wow Bob,

Where did you get that old video??? It's Liang style baguazhang and my teacher appears in the vid as well as Ma Chuan Xu, an awesome bagua practitioner!!! I had the chance to practice with him in beijing for 7-8 months before coming to Taiwan. Do you have the full video? it must have been filmed back in the 70's.

Great stuff thanks, the Liang style practitioners will apreciate.

Michael


Bob wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40aN0zHgATo&feature=related

Various Bagua Weapons - Swords, Hooks, etc.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk8smv8N ... re=related

Modern Baguazhang sample:
Water Dragon Baguazhang ... connected body, silk reeling, large sabre practice. Contact me if you would like to annotate the clip with your comments in the half-speed section.

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Re: Bagua Weapons

Postby edededed on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:14 am

Wow, awesome video! Thanks, Bob! :D

Michael - wow, 7-8 months?! That's pretty long - must have been a great time!
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Re: Bagua Weapons

Postby Hakkesho on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:52 am

It was great indeed and I really improved my circle walking and the basics during that time. But it's still far too short to get something really serious, especially with Ma laoshi, you need more time.
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Re: Bagua Weapons

Postby Bob on Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:40 am

Michael:

I've never uploaded any videos onto YouTube--just surfing around and letting my "Jungian" intuition guide me! LOL

Synchronicity is the experience of two or more events that are causally unrelated occurring together in a meaningful manner. To count as synchronicity, the events should be unlikely to occur together by chance.

The concept does not question, or compete with, the notion of causality. Instead, it maintains that just as events may be grouped by cause, they may also be grouped by their meaning. Since meaning is a complex mental construction, subject to conscious and subconscious influence, not every correlation in the grouping of events by meaning needs to have an explanation in terms of cause and effect.

The idea of synchronicity is that the conceptual relationship of minds, defined as the relationship between ideas, is intricately structured in its own logical way and gives rise to relationships that are not causal in nature. These relationships can manifest themselves as simultaneous occurrences that are meaningfully related—the cause and the effect occur together.

Synchronous events reveal an underlying pattern, a conceptual framework that encompasses, but is larger than, any of the systems that display the synchronicity. The suggestion of a larger framework is essential to satisfy the definition of synchronicity as originally developed by Swiss psychologist Carl Gustav Jung.[1]

Jung coined the word to describe what he called "temporally coincident occurrences of acausal events." Jung variously described synchronicity as an "acausal connecting principle", "meaningful coincidence" and "acausal parallelism". Jung introduced the concept as early as the 1920s but only gave a full statement of it in 1951 in an Eranos lecture[2] and in 1952, published a paper, Synchronicity — An Acausal Connecting Principle, in a volume with a related study by the physicist (and Nobel laureate) Wolfgang Pauli.[3]

It was a principle that Jung felt gave conclusive evidence for his concepts of archetypes and the collective unconscious,[4] in that it was descriptive of a governing dynamic that underlies the whole of human experience and history—social, emotional, psychological, and spiritual. Concurrent events that first appear to be coincidental but later turn out to be causally related are termed incoincident.

Jung believed that many experiences that are coincidences due to chance in terms of causality suggested the manifestation of parallel events or circumstances in terms of meaning, reflecting this governing dynamic.[5]

One of Jung's favourite quotes on synchronicity was from Through the Looking-Glass by Lewis Carroll, in which the White Queen says to Alice: "It's a poor sort of memory that only works backwards".[6][7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchronicity

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Re: Bagua Weapons

Postby edededed on Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:56 pm

Well, that is a video that is going into my hard disk :D

Michael - I guess it really depends on the person (effort, talent, and luck!) - different people take different amounts with them! But 7-8 months with the top is far more valuable than almost anything else you can get these days, anyway...
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Re: Bagua Weapons

Postby Hakkesho on Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:46 pm

Ed,
You are right by saying that it depends on the person. I absorbed a lot during the time I was with Ma laoshi but, since I didn't spend 3 years with him (the time he considers necessary to get the basic "gongfu"), he considered that it was too early to teach me other stuff. I kind of found a way to avoid this: when we finished the circle walking, everybody was doing there personnal stuff like say, dancao, taolu or other basics. I did the same with the dancao or some parts of the 64, and Ma would watch and then tell me how to do it differently or correct me. Another way is to tell him: I don't quite understand this movement or application, why should we do it like this, blabla, it usually work hehehe.
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Re: Bagua Weapons

Postby edededed on Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:08 am

Hahaha... Yeah, you can always try "tricks" like that - they are often the only way to get teachers to talk about certain things, anyway... :) It is still a bit hard to learn taolu that way, but you can still pick up dancaoshou and such, sort of! If you knew a taolu already, you could still brush it up, though, I guess...
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