鄧昌成師傅 八卦六十四掌 Master CS Tang Bagua 64 Palm

[Bob]

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鄧昌成師傅教授高式八卦掌基礎換式之八母掌連環二套, Sifu CS Tang illustrating Changing set of Eight Mother Palms of Gao Bagua Zhang

[C.J.Wang]

In recent years, CS Tang has traveled to Tianjin to compare notes with Wu Meng Xia's branch. It seems to have altered the style he learned from Ho Ko-Choi.

[fisherman]

In what way?

[C.J.Wang]

power expression and larger forward extending posture.

[fisherman]

Agreed. I wonder why it was changed?
I definitely see that there is more emphasis in having the expression of the body being very forward.

[Ian]

so cs tang is based in hk and I could be studying under him, but imo his applications seem quite uninspired. as if he's trying to justify the movements when they just don't work for him. am I totally off base with this? anyone have any hands-on experience with the guy?

[Andy_S]

Ian:

Ian:

If taken out of the context, some of those moves are quite nice - the first bagua takedown, for eg. These are two-man IMA forms, so are convoluted and IMHO, contain gold along with dross.

That having been said, CS Tang is a personal CMA storehouse: He has done bagua, Chen and Yang Taiji, Southern PM, and no doubt a load of other stuff. AFAIK he is a martial artist not a fighter - which I think you are looking for.

Speaking of which, the MT scene in HK used to be very good: Kong Fu-tak, who is renowned as a murderously tough trainer (I think he was an early Steve Morris student which could explain a lot) is or was active there. Why not check him out? I suspect that training experience would be a step up from the Systema in terms of combative intensity, though may not be as technically varied as you are used to.

[Ian]

Andy,

Thanks for the rec.

No I'm not looking for fighters exclusively. I see the point of having someone teach you body mechanics etc. but I just don't trust teachers who have zero fight experience. You end up having to go along with a lot of stuff that's just blatantly wrong.