James McNeil Xingyi Apps

[chrislomas]

Yes Wang taught in Japan. Hung had uniforms as he did Judo, Hsu Hong Chi also used uniforms and had also practiced judo in his youth. Hsu had many high ranking japanese students and taught in Japan sometimes but never lived there or owned a school there.

[kenneth fish]

TST did no come into being until 20 years after the end of WWII. Japanese MA were mostly limited to Judo and Kendo during the occupation. TST was Hong Yixiang's name for his style of teaching (after he broke away from Zhang Junfeng). Xu Hongji was, as you say, a student of Hong's. Both Hong and Xu taught quite differently from Master Zhang - both in movement and in the flavor of the motions.

[Josealb]

wasnt that Wang Shujin ... not hung?

I think youre right. Wang was the one who actually went to japan...but i was thinking on the TST group thats in japan and the Way Of The Warrior gi's, and they seemed to momentarily Osoto Gari my history skills.

[Mike Strong]

Wang did go to Japan and had many Japanese students, but he was representin' Chinese Culture the whole time.

The Taiwanese, especaily older Taiwanese, have fond memories of their Japanese Occupation, - and when The Mainlanders came they grumbled and pined for "the good old days" when they were under Japanese rule, ...

... anyway, that was what I was told.

And there are a lot of vestiges of Japanese Culture on Taiwan to this day ...

[Finny]

wasnt that Wang Shujin ... not hung?

I think youre right. Wang was the one who actually went to japan...but i was thinking on the TST group thats in japan and the Way Of The Warrior gi's, and they seemed to momentarily Osoto Gari my history skills.

The TST school filmed in the Way of the Warrior is Hung's school in Taiwan.

They wore karate style dogi, but for the reasons Ken Fish outlined

[kreese]

I heard that the mainlanders were the ones with bad memories of the Japanese occupation in China. In Taiwan, the Japanese improved conditions a lot and hence the old timers can see the positive aspects of Japanese occupation. I had to have it explained to me because I thought the old people would feel sick at the sight of all the young people co-opting so much of Japanese (pop) culture. I'm sure some of the Taiwanese people on this board could give us the real low down.

[Mike Strong]

Kreese,

Let me re-write the last sentence of my post so that you can understand it:

The Taiwanese, especialy older Taiwanese had fond memories of The Japanese Occupation, - and when The Mainlanders came they [THEY, meaning The Taiwanese, the object of the sentence] grumbled and pined for the good old days under Japanese rule.

[kreese]

Was there some part of my post that you found argumentative, or are you just being a prick for no good reason? THEY would be the subject of the sentence, not the object, BTW. If I am saying the same thing you said, then I misread what you wrote and I am AGREEING

[Josealb]

So, the TST group in japan...those are mainly Hsu Hongchi students, right?

[Finny]

never heard of a TST group in Japan

Chris Lomas says at the top of this page that Hsu "never had a group or school in Japan"

What makes you think there's a TST group in Japan?

Su Dong Chen is the closest I can imagine...

[Bill]

I used to hear Hsu Hong-chi talk about his Japanese students and about going to Japan to teach.

[Josealb]

Finny,



And some info on them written on Dave's (Formosa Neijia) blog:

http://formosaneijia.com/2007/05/01/tsd-japanese-style/

[xingyijuan]

Very nice clip, IMO. They play with principles, drilling, overturning, rise and fall, instead of with tricks. You can see how streamlined it is for actual fighting application.

[strawdog]

They look like they'd be easy to hit and takedown.

[ashe]

TST did no come into being until 20 years after the end of WWII. Japanese MA were mostly limited to Judo and Kendo during the occupation. TST was Hong Yixiang's name for his style of teaching (after he broke away from Zhang Junfeng). Xu Hongji was, as you say, a student of Hong's. Both Hong and Xu taught quite differently from Master Zhang - both in movement and in the flavor of the motions.

that's interesting. could you elaborate further?