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McCain's Doesn't Know How Many Houses He Owns!!!

Postby steelincotton on Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:21 am

Damn this John McCain is even WORSE than Bush. If you examine exactly what he says, you'll see that he outright LIES on every single subject he speaks about. I think he's forgotten to take his daily medication lately. The flashbacks, skin cancer, and nervous ticks are starting to get the best of that 72 year old adulterer.

I've never seen and heard politics as sleazy as what I'm seeing from this McCain campaign these days.

At least Obama grew up in a single parent home - then lived with his grand parents for a while, and then PAID HIS OWN WAY thru Harvard Law with student loans, which he just paid off recently due to the success of his two books. At least Obama hasn't cheated on his wife, or left his wife and first family like McMoney did. The Obama's are worth around 4 million today, which according to John McCain's recent comments about who is rich in America, would classify Obama as upper middle class! ;D

In a recent forum, McCain stated that you're not "rich" unless you make FIVE MILLION OR MORE!!! >:(

And now, we see that McCain doesn't even know how many houses he owns! And he slanderously calls Obama an elitist? Meanwhile, the 100 MILLION DOLLAR McCain's fly around in their own "private jet" while McMoney walks around in his $500.00 loafers, talking about drilling for oil HERE AND NOW like it's actually going to lower gas prices or something (As usual, McCain like to do things that helps oil companies, so this is just par for the course for McMoney - the experts have said it might effect the price by 2 or 3 cents 10 years from now). The rich certainly do get richer, but we working class pawns are told to be lucky we even have a job these days!

If America votes for this McCain buffoon, we deserve everything we are going to get. Disaster.

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Re: McCain's Doesn't Know How Many Houses He Owns!!!

Postby meeks on Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:38 pm

yea - because it's the frivolity and carelessness of american families, not the fault of the government spending that has ruined the american economy causing people to lose their jobs and homes. What was it Bush did after 9/11? oh yea- he encouraged people to go on vacations and travel.
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Re: McCain's Doesn't Know How Many Houses He Owns!!!

Postby Mike Strong on Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:51 pm

Come on Steelincotton, - ( or whatever your name really is ) ...

... when are you going to grow up ? ::)


McCain was joking when he made the "5 Million" remark, - he made that clear in the very same breath that he made in.

He has a condo in Viginia, a place in Pheonix, and a ranch in Sedona. His other properties are investments.

What do you have against rich people ? :-\



Next week I will make my 12th mortagage payment, ( on time) - and man , - DO I EVER FEEL LIKE A SUCKER !

I bought a little condo, in the ghetto part of town...

... I should have bought a big place, in the fancy part of town, - with an Adjustable Rate Mortgage !

Then I could be a victim, blame rich people for my prediciment, and get bailed out by the governement.

But oh no, - I had to take personal resposnsibilty, and move into a little cracker box, ...

... oh well, - at least I'm in a neigborhood with a dozen Filipino Buffets, some good Soul Food Joints, and a muy bueno Rincon Latino ! ;D
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Re: McCain's Doesn't Know How Many Houses He Owns!!!

Postby MikeC on Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:27 pm

Mike Strong wrote:
Next week I will make my 12th mortagage payment, ( on time) - and man , - DO I EVER FEEL LIKE A SUCKER !

I bought a little condo, in the ghetto part of town...

... I should have bought a big place, in the fancy part of town, - with an Adjustable Rate Mortgage !

Then I could be a victim, blame rich people for my prediciment, and get bailed out by the governement.

But oh no, - I had to take personal resposnsibilty, and move into a little cracker box, ...

... oh well, - at least I'm in a neigborhood with a dozen Filipino Buffets, some good Soul Food Joints, and a muy bueno Latino Rincon! ;D


Gotta love Socialism. A buddy of mine here in NY owns some apartments. One of his tenants qualifies for state assistance. A woman and her son. Something like 90% of her rent is paid for by the State. She pays like a 100 bucks to my friend, the State picks up the rest. When he applied for this program he asked the manager of the program how long she could stay on assistance. "As long as she doesn't make over a certain amount, she could stay on indefinately...". Wow.

So in other words, there's no incentive to improve your situation or get a better job.

What a sham.

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Re: McCain's Doesn't Know How Many Houses He Owns!!!

Postby count on Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:51 pm

Hey, at his age, I'm surprised he can remember his own name let alone all the homes he and his rich, wife own. But to each his own.

Too bad about your home Mike. Maybe you could afford a better home once we get rid of these Bush'ies :P I know what you mean though. I spent my life doing the right thing and paying down my debt. Now they expect me to bail out these so called banking institutions who ripped me off with their fees and interests for the last 30 years. Go figure. :-\
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Re: McCain's Doesn't Know How Many Houses He Owns!!!

Postby Mike Strong on Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:35 pm

Hey, I'm not complaining.

It's a cracker box, - but damn it ...

... it's MY cracker box!

It's acctually a swingin' bachelor pad, ( if I could just afford to buy a few more pieces of furniture ) ...


... have you ever priced bear skin rugs ?

They are not cheap, my friend, - they are not cheap.
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Re: McCain's Doesn't Know How Many Houses He Owns!!!

Postby klonk on Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:18 pm

This just in:

The presumptive Republican nominee, though, may have some wiggle room in explaining why he couldn't immediately provide an answer when asked by Politico how many houses he and his wife, Cindy, own. Sen. McCain himself does not own any of the properties. They're all owned by Cindy McCain, her dependent children and the trusts and companies they control.


http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12700.html
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Re: McCain's Doesn't Know How Many Houses He Owns!!!

Postby steelincotton on Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:25 am

This story is getting big time traction - it matters little if Cindy or John own what and where - it's about who understands, can relate to people, and who lives in reality, and who does not!!! I'm so sick and tired of McMoney trying to paint Obama as some kind of billionaire elitist, meanwhile they (Obama's) live in and own only ONE house! One house. Not exactly the Rockefeller's now are they? In fact, as far as I know, Obama is probably the POOREST person to run for the presidency in my lifetime. Think about that, and what that means. Even by McCain's own words, Obama is NOT considered rich since he has made LESS than FIVE million (from his book sales basically).

Big time slip up for McCain, whether some of you think so or not. It really goes to show how out of touch he is with struggling American working people like most of us.

McCain says you're only rich if you have Five million dollars or more? LOL. Now, he doesn't know how many houses they own? Now throw in the FACT (even by his own words) the man has absolutely NO understanding of the economy, and all we have left is an old broken down ex-pow who's best & worst dayz are long behind him. Technically speaking, McCain's best dayz (which many consider to be his military past) are really what I detest about the man the most (that and the Keating Five savings and load scandal that he was involved with - fukking criminal that he is). McMoney has killed many women and children on his "illustrious" bombing missions, and that's something we're suppose to be proud of the man for? What did it achieve in Vietnam? Nothing. Now here we are, just like in Nam, we've killed over 250,000 men, women, and children (and wounded many more for life) in Iraq and what did we achieve there? Again, nothing! Have we won the "war on terror" in Iraq that McCain so vehemently supports and is willing to continue to let Americans die for? Give me a FUKKKKKING break.

Basically, the way I see it, McCain stands for NOTHING.

I can sum McMoney up like this...... a noun, a verb, and I'm a POW. Just like that imbecile Rudy Guliani - a noun, a verb, and 9/11. It's wearing extremely weak, but that basically sums up the old artful codger-dodger doesn't it?
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Re: McCain's Doesn't Know How Many Houses He Owns!!!

Postby DeusTrismegistus on Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:07 pm

Didn't want to start a new thread but this is interesting.

August 21, 2008

How Obama Blew It
Loserville

By DAVE LINDORFF

Well, it’s happened, and it’s no surprise.


Barack Obama, the prospective Democratic presidential candidate, has managed to turn a 5-8 point lead over prospective Republican opponent John McCain into a 7-point deficit—a double-digit slide—in just two and a half months following a campaign that had voters really excited over his candidacy.


How did he manage this feat (which is documented in the latest latest Reuters/Zogby poll)?

Simple: he followed the tried-and-true strategy of Democratic centrist advisers who have increasingly dominated his campaign since the end of the primaries, and who have a proven track record of producing Democratic electoral disasters now for several decades.


Like John Kerry and Al Gore before him, Obama, who ran his primary campaign as a liberal, staking out an anti-war position, has morphed over recent weeks into a Republican-lite candidate, calling for a hard line against Palestinian rights, threatening to attack Iran, calling for an expansion of the disastrous war in Afghanistan, and backing away from genuine health care reform and other important progressive goals here at home.


One might think that after watching Democratic candidates lose the last two presidential elections by following exactly this kind of “strategy,” if it can be called that, Obama and his campaign managers would have decided to try something different, but it appears that the Democratic Party at the top is hopelessly in the grip of corporate interests that favor war, free-market nostrums and corporate welfare. (Okay, I know Gore really won the 2000 election, but he should have won it so convincingly—for example taking New Hampshire and his home state of Tennessee—that the election couldn’t have been stolen. And Kerry, similarly, should not have had his race determined by a close vote in economically distressed Ohio, which should have been his by a blowout.
)

Obama got where he is—the first African-American major party nominee and the first black candidate with a real shot at winning the White House—by appealing to the Democratic Party’s liberal base. Now Zogby reports that Obama’s support among liberals has plunged 12 percent.
That’s liberals folks!

I count myself among those on the left who have turned away from this fast-talking eel of a candidate.


It’s not a matter of turning to McCain, who is if anything more dangerous than President Bush because of his fondness for war and his evident lack of any kind of principles, not to mention his personal greed.


But how can I or any progressive vote for a presidential candidate who goes from opposing a war to saying he not only supports the idea of keeping troops in Iraq for another five years—the length of the entire WWII!—but who further says he won’t rule out attacking Iran, even if that country poses no imminent threat to the US, simply because it develops nuclear weapons—the same weapons that our putative friends, Pakistan and India, have? How can I vote for a candidate who wants to expand the military (by 65,000 troops) instead of shrinking this huge, bloodsucking parasite of an organization which is costing as much as the rest of the world spends on its armies?

How can I or any progressive vote for a presidential candidate who cannot state categorically that he will defend the Constitution by reversing all of President Bush’s abuses of power and who will not promise to prosecute the president and members of his administration for any crimes committed while in office?

If you look at Obama's vaunted website, and check out his positions on the big issues of healthcare, education, the economy, labor, social security, etc., you can see he’s pretty good on most things (okay, his health care “reform” is a loser and will never fly. He should be calling for a nationally-run insurance system modeled on Medicare and paid for by the government). The problem is that there has been a deliberate effort to soft-pedal all of it, while backpedaling on his position on the Iraq War. It's almost as if he and his campaign think the "smart" progressives will go to his website and be satisfied with his online positions, while the "dumb" unaffiliated voters will not go there and will just base their votes on his gauzy image TV ads.
(More importantly, if he can go from anti-war to pro-war, what's to say he won't backpedal in office on the rest of his positions, especially if he won't highlight and defend them vigorously on the campaign trail?)

There has clearly been a decision made in the Obama campaign to soft-pedal liberal positions and to make Obama appear “safe” and uncontroversial.


The result has been his precipitous slide in the polls.


That’s not the worst of it, either. Obama is not just losing liberals in droves. Many liberals, after all, will in the end return and vote for grudgingly for Obama, though they probably won’t volunteer to do any of the critical campaign work registering voters, promoting his candidacy or getting people to the polls. The worst part is that by becoming just another middle-of-the-road, namby-pamby, Republican-lite clone of Kerry circa 2004 and Gore circa 2000, Obama is losing the young and also the disaffected, unaffiliated voters who were flocking to his campaign during the primaries. This group of erstwhile enthusiasts is down 12 percent, too. And it’s those people—particularly the unaffiliated voters--who are raising McCain’s numbers. The Zogby poll reports that McCain’s support among younger voters has reached 40 percent—not that much below Obama’s 52 percent.


There is probably still time to turn this electoral debacle in the making around. Obama needs to come out unambiguously for a quick end to the war in Iraq. He needs to do an about face on his call for an expansion of the war in Afghanistan. He needs to flatly rule out preemptive war as a policy for the United States of America, unless the country is in danger of imminent attack. He needs to scotch plans for expanding the military, and instead to start talking about how to reduce military spending, so that those funds can be shifted to domestic priorities like improving education and dramatically increasing research into carbon-free energy production. He needs to call for a national healthcare system that will provide quality, affordable medical care for all, and he needs to call for an aggressive campaign to combat joblessness and to reduce income disparity within the US.


Do that, and we will see an Obama presidency and a Democratic sweep of both houses of Congress.


Continue with the present losing strategy, and we will see John McCain as president, and the continuation of a weak, compromised, sell-out Democratic Congress for at least the next four years.


Now as sympathetic as I am to the politics espoused by Ralph Nader and by the Green Party, I'm well aware of the futility of Third Party campaigns. Even so, count me as one progressive who at this point has stopped supporting Obama.


DAVE LINDORFF is a Philadelphia-based journalist and columnist. His latest book is "The Case for Impeachment" (St. Martin's Press, 2006).
His work is available at www. thiscantbehappening. net

http://www. counterpunch. org/lindorff08212008. html
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Re: McCain's Doesn't Know How Many Houses He Owns!!!

Postby TaoJoannes on Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:19 pm

MikeC wrote:
Mike Strong wrote:
Next week I will make my 12th mortagage payment, ( on time) - and man , - DO I EVER FEEL LIKE A SUCKER !

I bought a little condo, in the ghetto part of town...

... I should have bought a big place, in the fancy part of town, - with an Adjustable Rate Mortgage !

Then I could be a victim, blame rich people for my prediciment, and get bailed out by the governement.

But oh no, - I had to take personal resposnsibilty, and move into a little cracker box, ...

... oh well, - at least I'm in a neigborhood with a dozen Filipino Buffets, some good Soul Food Joints, and a muy bueno Latino Rincon! ;D


Gotta love Socialism. A buddy of mine here in NY owns some apartments. One of his tenants qualifies for state assistance. A woman and her son. Something like 90% of her rent is paid for by the State. She pays like a 100 bucks to my friend, the State picks up the rest. When he applied for this program he asked the manager of the program how long she could stay on assistance. "As long as she doesn't make over a certain amount, she could stay on indefinately...". Wow.

So in other words, there's no incentive to improve your situation or get a better job.

What a sham.

Mike


Yeah, particularly since the families in question just stay in that situation most times, while your buddy is the one actually collecting all of our tax dollars.

Not to mention all the slick tax breaks he gets for renting to those tenants, or the inflated rent he's able to charge.

It's predatory and criminal.
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Re: McCain's Doesn't Know How Many Houses He Owns!!!

Postby Mike Strong on Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:21 pm

Dave Lindorf should take off his Che Gueverra t-shirt, rip it in half, wrap one end around a water pipe in his writer's garret and one end around his socialist neck and put an end to his teenage angst once and for all. ;D
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Re: McCain's Doesn't Know How Many Houses He Owns!!!

Postby DeusTrismegistus on Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:34 pm

TaoJoannes wrote:
MikeC wrote:
Mike Strong wrote:
Next week I will make my 12th mortagage payment, ( on time) - and man , - DO I EVER FEEL LIKE A SUCKER !

I bought a little condo, in the ghetto part of town...

... I should have bought a big place, in the fancy part of town, - with an Adjustable Rate Mortgage !

Then I could be a victim, blame rich people for my prediciment, and get bailed out by the governement.

But oh no, - I had to take personal resposnsibilty, and move into a little cracker box, ...

... oh well, - at least I'm in a neigborhood with a dozen Filipino Buffets, some good Soul Food Joints, and a muy bueno Latino Rincon! ;D


Gotta love Socialism. A buddy of mine here in NY owns some apartments. One of his tenants qualifies for state assistance. A woman and her son. Something like 90% of her rent is paid for by the State. She pays like a 100 bucks to my friend, the State picks up the rest. When he applied for this program he asked the manager of the program how long she could stay on assistance. "As long as she doesn't make over a certain amount, she could stay on indefinately...". Wow.

So in other words, there's no incentive to improve your situation or get a better job.

What a sham.

Mike


Yeah, particularly since the families in question just stay in that situation most times, while your buddy is the one actually collecting all of our tax dollars.

Not to mention all the slick tax breaks he gets for renting to those tenants, or the inflated rent he's able to charge.

It's predatory and criminal.


Friend of mine and his wife are in govt housing, get food stamps, etc. He doesn't work because if he did they would make too much money and wouldn't be able to afford their rent, food, or most other things. Inflated rent is what happens when you have to deal with the govt paperwork BS where is you misspell something they refuse to pay you.
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Re: McCain's Doesn't Know How Many Houses He Owns!!!

Postby steelincotton on Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:40 pm

From the Huffington Post (my favorite political site):

You might be a rich guy like McMoney/McCain if .........

you can't count how many homes you have, you might be a rich guy.

If you think it takes $5 million a year to be rich, you might be a rich guy.

If you think some people "are poor if they're billionaires," you might be a rich guy.

If you have a fireplace next to the outdoor spa in one of your mansions, you might be a rich guy.

If your plan to cut taxes on the wealthy would save your family $373,429 a year, you might be a rich guy.

If you dumped your first wife to have an affair with a wealthy heiress, you might be(come) a rich guy.

If you fly around with a lobbyist on corporate jets while doing favors for her client, you might be a rich guy.

If you wear $520 loafers, you might be a rich guy.

If your annual expenses for servants are five times the median income per person in America, you might be a rich guy.

If you refer to your 6-acre Sedona lakeside estate, worth more than one million dollars and complete with a large home, a guest house, and the house next door, as a "cabin," you might be a rich guy.

If you think that no American would pick lettuce for $50 an hour, you might be a rich guy.

If you fly around on your wife's corporate jet for free, you might be a rich guy.

If you think that big corporations need $200 billion in tax giveaways, you might be a rich guy.

If you think inheritance taxes on multi-millionaires need to be cut by 67%, you might be a rich guy.

If you think being given a vice president's job at your father-in-law's beer company is an accomplishment, you might be a rich guy.

If you and your wife are worth well over $100 million, you might be a rich guy.

If you think selling junk on eBay is how Americans can avoid poverty, you might be a rich guy.

If you think it's normal to take a free trip to Charles Keating's opulent Bahamas retreat and get $112,000 in campaign donations in exchange for meeting with federal regulators on Keating's behalf, you might be a rich guy.
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Re: McCain's Doesn't Know How Many Houses He Owns!!!

Postby Mike Strong on Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:56 pm

I work with a Chinese woman, who has a no-good gambling parasite of a husband that doesn't contribute a dime, and she supports him, and here daughter, AND makes payments on a 2 bedroom house, ...

... Deus, - what does your friend DO all day?

Drool spittle on his chin ?

If an immagrent with limited English skills can make ends meet, and buy a house, anyone can.

She has a girlfriend who works in a Chinese restaurant, - she saved her cash under her mattress for years, and this month she just payed for a really nice condo ...

... in CASH !

She's a waitress, in a Chinese restaurant, and she choose not to live onthe dool, - she worked, she saved, she got ahead.

I have no sympathy for someone who's stratagey in life is to NOT WORK, because it's THE BEST HE CAN DO. :P
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Re: McCain's Doesn't Know How Many Houses He Owns!!!

Postby DeusTrismegistus on Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:36 pm

Mike Strong wrote:I work with a Chinese woman, who has a no-good gambling parasite of a husband that doesn't contribute a dime, and she supports him, and here daughter, AND makes payments on a 2 bedroom house, ...

... Deus, - what does your friend DO all day?

Drool spittle on his chin ?

If an immagrent with limited English skills can make ends meet, and buy a house, anyone can.

She has a girlfriend who works in a Chinese restaurant, - she saved her cash under her mattress for years, and this month she just payed for a really nice condo ...

... in CASH !

She's a waitress, in a Chinese restaurant, and she choose not to live onthe dool, - she worked, she saved, she got ahead.

I have no sympathy for someone who's stratagey in life is to NOT WORK, because it's THE BEST HE CAN DO. :P


I never said he wasn't pathetic.

The problem is we have a system where if you make (random numbers incoming to make a point) 15,000 dollars a year the govt will pay for your apartment and utilities, you will get medicaid, and food stamps to help reduce expenses. So if the apartment and utilities is 800/month, food stamps worth 300/month, medicaid worth 200/month, then you would need to increase your income by 15,600/year after taxes to break even and not have a net loss in income. Right now we are hiring for heavy manual labor positions and people are coming in begging to be hired an minimum wage which is less than 15k a year gross.

To make matters worse a lot of givt aide has a sharp cut off point. So at 15k a year you will get 10k worth in help but then at 16k a year you get nothing.

If you have a system that makes you net less money the more you make then why would you attempt to make more?
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